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Igel

(35,300 posts)
25. You see, that's not a helpful assertion.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jul 2012

If they're not self-made then they're other-made. Let's not quibble over the forced choice just yet.

That means they aren't responsible for their success. They have no right to their success. Those who made it, own it. That's us. They're just squatters.

Of course nobody means that. Until you look around, then it's obvious that's just what they mean. If everybody gets roughly equivalent government support and some do a lot better, that "a lot better" is what they mean by "self-made." They did something most others don't. That "something" is crucial. If you both start at the same place, the person who did nothing or little with what they were given, well, that's possibly luck, but usually it's a lot more than luck.

That's what I tell my kids. Yeah, luck happens, but not consistently and unless you're on your game it does nothing for you. When a kid does well in class, I don't pat myself on the back. The kid did the work. Self-congratution is self-condemnatino myself: Why didn't all 30 of them do well?

The other kids try to drag the high-achiever down: "You're just smart! You're lucky! The teacher likes you!" They're justifications for mediocrity: avoiding effort, consequences of choices, and being generally resentful about having to set foot in my room. Yeah, that high achiever didn't do it on her own--but you other 29, you got all the same help. What's your excuse? Bad genetics? Bad luck? I'm out to get you?

WTF? wolfgirl Jul 2012 #1
Somebody's going to have to answr for this outrage! rfranklin Jul 2012 #2
The author is not your typical right wing nut job. nt Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #3
Oh she most certainly is not. nc4bo Jul 2012 #8
You are so correct riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #12
Wait, my eyes must be deceiving me.... turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #4
Quick! Save a copy. That link probably won't last long BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #5
It's a new day. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #6
Alllright, what's the setup here? NBachers Jul 2012 #7
Sally is their authentic token liberal. She describes herself as... OneGrassRoot Jul 2012 #9
Thanks chiming in Onegrassroot. I was finding myself liking her by what I was reading nc4bo Jul 2012 #11
but then how can she work for fox? barbtries Jul 2012 #30
I'm not sure exactly how, or why, she does it. OneGrassRoot Jul 2012 #35
good on her and good on Fox for cracking open the door magical thyme Jul 2012 #37
Where's the, "but...." or the "however..."? Frustratedlady Jul 2012 #10
This is the perfect link... Blanks Jul 2012 #13
re: Wait, WHAT???!!!??? Fox News says "Obama's right. Americans can't succeed without government" allan01 Jul 2012 #14
Hoover Dam government project made possible and created Las Vegas vinny9698 Jul 2012 #15
+1 freshwest Jul 2012 #28
oops, first Shep Smith and now this Sally woman mountain grammy Jul 2012 #16
Someone at Fox can tell the truth! evilhime Jul 2012 #17
Leave it to Fox - no such thing as a self-made success. Zax2me Jul 2012 #18
You see, that's not a helpful assertion. Igel Jul 2012 #25
Wow. Maybe all those Republican sexual predators crim son Jul 2012 #19
Maybe they are trying to give Rmoney a clue quaker bill Jul 2012 #20
whoa... she'll be banned from Faux News soon lol nt steve2470 Jul 2012 #21
It's DEFINITELY going to be a brokered GOP convention. nt valerief Jul 2012 #22
Hell Hath Frozen And The Pigs Have Flown. stlsaxman Jul 2012 #23
This is some kind of ploy! KansDem Jul 2012 #24
That's what I keep thinking laundry_queen Jul 2012 #26
A reality-based piece at Fox? In unrelated news, Cats and Dogs living together, story at 11... freshwest Jul 2012 #27
I believe Murdoch secretly wants Obama to win AnnieK401 Jul 2012 #29
well it WAS Murdoch's paper in the UK that headlined "Mitt the Twit" n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #33
The Peasants Are Revolting! AnnieBW Jul 2012 #31
I'll take it where I can get it, and if Fox news says something intelligent, I won't quibble. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #32
I'm having a rough time.. RedCappedBandit Jul 2012 #34
how did they let that on their site? Danmel Jul 2012 #36
Fox is repositioning for the inevitable Obama second term marble falls Jul 2012 #38
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