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Nevernose

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17. Depends

Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:00 PM

Mar 2018

My father, for instance, personally contacted every Guard unit in the South. No openings for poor kids, or black kids, or kids with funny names. Lots of openings for rich kids who wanted to use 20 million dollar fighter jets to defend the Alabama coast from the impending Viet Cong amphibious assault. Funny, that disparity.

People who joined the National Guard during a war AND during a draft are/were draft dodgers. Just because you’ve added a legal technicality to the definition doesn’t make Bolton less of a coward, hypocrite, or draft dodger.

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Bolton dodged Vietnam by joining the NG [View all] kairos12 Mar 2018 OP

Chris Matthews, tonight on his show, madaboutharry Mar 2018 #1

What was Matthews service record? former9thward Mar 2018 #15

do you need a service record to call Bolton a Chickenhawk ? stonecutter357 Mar 2018 #31

No one needs anything to call anybody else anything. former9thward Mar 2018 #46

He served in the Peace Corps JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #32

Serving isn't draft dodging, as a fellow vet you should know that, doesn't anyone here remember braddy Mar 2018 #2

Resisters. safeinOhio Mar 2018 #3

I was a draft resister, and there were what we could call draft evaders, but a draft dodger was a braddy Mar 2018 #4

I was fine with anyone safeinOhio Mar 2018 #7

Chickenhawk would be more accurate. kairos12 Mar 2018 #8

I was fine with men like me that opposed the draft itself but I despised the cowardly draft dodgers braddy Mar 2018 #11

Fair point. Thanks. kairos12 Mar 2018 #5

Thats not the only way to define the term Major Nikon Mar 2018 #12

People knew that the Navy and Air Force were safe but did not know that the Reserves and Guard were braddy Mar 2018 #13

Try not to break your back carrying Ned Flanders water Major Nikon Mar 2018 #14

I don't know what that means, but serving in the military is not draft dodging. braddy Mar 2018 #16

So I guess he shouldnt have admitted to being a draft dodger Major Nikon Mar 2018 #18

Depends Nevernose Mar 2018 #17

Nonsense, there were plenty of regular guys in basic and the other Army schools during the war braddy Mar 2018 #19

A draft dodger is someone who dodges the draft Major Nikon Mar 2018 #20

Serving in the military is hardly avoiding service in the military, and braddy Mar 2018 #21

Naive nonsense Major Nikon Mar 2018 #24

I am struggling with your version of "draft dodging" as well DrDan Mar 2018 #26

Did you not read the previous post? Major Nikon Mar 2018 #28

I did DrDan Mar 2018 #29

You do understand compulsory service is the draft, yes? Major Nikon Mar 2018 #30

no they are not the same DrDan Mar 2018 #33

So dodging the draft doesn't mean dodging the draft Major Nikon Mar 2018 #34

dodging the draft is evading compulsary military service - if you perform DrDan Mar 2018 #38

Most people don't need a dictionary to figure out draft dodging means dodging the draft, YMMV Major Nikon Mar 2018 #39

I have said nothing about Bolton - but you know that DrDan Mar 2018 #40

Voluntary compulsory service Major Nikon Mar 2018 #41

ahhh - so now the insults - a good tactic when one's logic begins to fuzz-up DrDan Mar 2018 #43

What insult? Major Nikon Mar 2018 #45

such a strange exchange - "A draft dodger is someone who dodges the draft' DrDan Mar 2018 #25

So a person who dodged the draft isnt a draft dodger? Major Nikon Mar 2018 #42

as I said - I entered the U.S.A.F active duty voluntarily - if not, I would have been drafted DrDan Mar 2018 #44

I consider Bolton to be a draft dodger Major Nikon Mar 2018 #47

so you prefer not to answer my simple question . . . got it DrDan Mar 2018 #48

I feel no obligation to answer questions from those who dont reciprocate Major Nikon Mar 2018 #49

That's a classic right wing chicken hawk excuse. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #6

In what branch of the service will the trump boys serve? Paladin Mar 2018 #9

Whatever their capacity they will come out with more fruit salad on their uniform than kairos12 Mar 2018 #10

Is there a recognition bar for "Securing Profitable Military Contracts"? (nt) Paladin Mar 2018 #22

I remember being called a "draft dodger" for enlisting in the USAF MineralMan Mar 2018 #23

I seriously doubt he considered the Vietnam war already lost. It's easy to say that brewens Mar 2018 #27

Um, the consensus on the street by '68-'69 was the was the war was unwinnable Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #35

I know that, but weren't there hard liners still insisting that if we sent enough, brewens Mar 2018 #36

One can assume, with no skin in the game, Bolton would have been in that camp. Brother Buzz Mar 2018 #37