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dawg

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13. I am so sorry.

Thu Apr 5, 2018, 01:01 PM

Apr 2018

I guess most of us have a few people in our families who go off the deep end. I certainly have my share.

For what it's worth, I'm a Christian. I grew up going to a Southern Baptist Church, and I consider myself "born again".

But, in my way of thinking, your sister is not thinking in a Christ-like fashion if she feels compelled to *hate* anyone. Jesus prayed for his murderers even as they were crucifying him.

There is a real spirt of hate in this country, and much of it winds its way through our churches. (I would call it a spirit of anti-Christ, but I don't want to sound like too much of a religious nutball.)

The answer is for us all to love one another, as much as is humanly possible. Some days that is hard.

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I havent spoken to my Born Again sister in 10 years [View all] lunatica Apr 2018 OP

Yikes....three pages? awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #1

The ways of burning in hell are only limited by your imagination lunatica Apr 2018 #15

Well, I have never put too much thought (any) awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #24

It has greatly saddened me what Upthevibe Apr 2018 #84

I was raised Presbyterian but the church I went to is now an Evangelical Presbyterian csziggy Apr 2018 #105

With all respect, your sister sounds demented! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2018 #2

This!! dameatball Apr 2018 #4

Yep lunatica Apr 2018 #16

demented/converted... same same in this case keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #70

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2018 #74

I'm so sorry. irisblue Apr 2018 #3

Well DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #5

That's the nice part about making him up... Baconator Apr 2018 #10

" Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #17

I bet youre not a Born Again Christian are you? lunatica Apr 2018 #11

I apologize for your sister. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #20

Damn, if I were an all-powerful Creator SCantiGOP Apr 2018 #32

It's amazing how adequately it describes him. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #37

19 describes the Orange Disaster to a T treestar Apr 2018 #85

And it's written in English!!! LanternWaste Apr 2018 #87

He literally checks every box. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #88

Describes Trump to a T! workinclasszero Apr 2018 #102

He literally checks every box. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #103

Bone Spurs still has his war card to play workinclasszero Apr 2018 #104

With all due respect DSB angrychair Apr 2018 #79

Thank you for that Maeve Apr 2018 #106

My faith is one of love, empathy, and understanding. It is not one of condemnation. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #107

Ditto that. n/t Dem_in_Nebr. Apr 2018 #110

Gee, I am so sorry. Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #6

We were really close growing up lunatica Apr 2018 #18

She has been kidnapped trixie2 Apr 2018 #48

Yes, just try to remember that, it's the fear. Laffy Kat Apr 2018 #108

Why don't you invite her out to the closest RED LOBSTER to discuss her philosophy? brooklynite Apr 2018 #7

I get it :) nt phylny Apr 2018 #29

? lunatica Apr 2018 #38

Shrimp & Shellfish are prohibited to orthodox Jews. irisblue Apr 2018 #45

More specifically, they're apparently prohibited to any "true" Christian brooklynite Apr 2018 #53

Or ask her why she wears clothes that are from blended materials? geardaddy Apr 2018 #44

ONE of the reasons I decided I could not 'believe,' elleng Apr 2018 #8

funny how their gods always hate the same things they do rurallib Apr 2018 #9

I always figured that anybody who could come up with, and revel in, the concept of eternal damnation niyad Apr 2018 #12

Especially when youre not sure what you did wrong lunatica Apr 2018 #22

I am so sorry. dawg Apr 2018 #13

I used to have a bumper sticker that read, "Born okay the first time" over an image of Stonehenge. niyad Apr 2018 #14

During the Black Plague in the 14th century thbobby Apr 2018 #19

yeah, but trump voters want to flog others, not themselves nt shanny Apr 2018 #64

They burned Jews and heretics. Mariana Apr 2018 #69

The religion of a vengeful, patriarchal deity is going to attract punishment fetishists. Orsino Apr 2018 #21

Does sound like there's a problem zipplewrath Apr 2018 #23

Shes a full blown Manic Depressive lunatica Apr 2018 #33

That was my thought also - underlying condition that was manifested later in life erronis Apr 2018 #77

Cults isolate members from their "unbelieving" family members and friends. Mariana Apr 2018 #25

AMWAY - isolates keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #75

I go with the Hawkeye response gratuitous Apr 2018 #26

Poison Ivy is from Batman. You are referring to Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson). earthshine Apr 2018 #89

You and I remember the movie very differently gratuitous Apr 2018 #91

You got your DC in my Marvel!!! Revanchist Apr 2018 #97

Yeah, my wife has some relatives like that HopeAgain Apr 2018 #27

Puts another slant on the belief lunatica Apr 2018 #30

Sorry about your sister. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #28

As usual, George Carlin summed it up well: SCantiGOP Apr 2018 #31

So sad... Marty Marzipan Apr 2018 #34

A combination of hate-filled religion and Fox News. Initech Apr 2018 #50

Many Protestants/Evangelicals consider Catholics a cult... BIGLY cult keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #78

Fox News is kind of like the Catholic church when you think about it. Initech Apr 2018 #86

Fox has the super short skirt thigh couch. keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #96

I'm sorry to hear that. sandensea Apr 2018 #35

Sounds like you've got a good handle on it. Paladin Apr 2018 #36

My life rule is lunatica Apr 2018 #40

I have acquaintances and relatives who have done the same. It's a shame. (nt) Paladin Apr 2018 #68

Religion. The original and still most effective brainwash. kairos12 Apr 2018 #39

Amen to that! lunatica Apr 2018 #42

And if Im not mistaken, Christianity is the only major religion where the stakes are all or nothing VOX Apr 2018 #95

Very insightful post. Pepsidog Apr 2018 #41

Whenever someone asks me if I'm born again, I tell them... geardaddy Apr 2018 #43

being an atheist... Javaman Apr 2018 #46

So sorry that she totally missed the entire idea of following Christ and his efhmc Apr 2018 #47

I gotta agree. Zealots suck. Religion, political, financial... LanternWaste Apr 2018 #49

The all knowing all seeing demands praise but killed his kid for us and hates the gays that he made? NightWatcher Apr 2018 #51

Interesting theory zentrum Apr 2018 #52

I am so very sorry lunatica Skittles Apr 2018 #54

I agree with you lunatica Apr 2018 #65

Say gilligan Apr 2018 #55

My older sisters DUgosh Apr 2018 #56

Sorry to hear hurl Apr 2018 #57

taint it funny these born agains ignore jesus to embrace mainly the old testament. pansypoo53219 Apr 2018 #58

You just put into words what I do whenever my Evangelical sister starts her crap with me. pazzyanne Apr 2018 #72

They always forget the part about love world wide wally Apr 2018 #59

Strange how there is no mention of Hell in the OT. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #60

In roughly the same boat woundedkarma Apr 2018 #61

I have some pretty conservative cousins CanonRay Apr 2018 #62

It's possible to stage an intervention for your sister FakeNoose Apr 2018 #63

Unfortunately that kind of emotional dependency lunatica Apr 2018 #66

Ick MosheFeingold Apr 2018 #67

My sympathy for the loss of your sister WestMichRad Apr 2018 #71

I once knew a person that I got along with quite well, oddly enough. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #73

It's much easier to keep converts radical noodle Apr 2018 #76

If you talk to her whip this out: EX500rider Apr 2018 #80

The newly converted often have to demonize the old ways/others to rationalize their change. keithbvadu2 Apr 2018 #81

I have a couple of zealots in my family TNLib Apr 2018 #82

Reminds me of the quote from a comedian - I'm not sure who. trackfan Apr 2018 #83

LOL lunatica Apr 2018 #98

When hear soneone say they are born again I know they are still the same a$$holes kimbutgar Apr 2018 #90

There's a born again sucker every minute. yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2018 #92

She needs for you to believe. It angers her because you don't, but the anger comes from deep within. earthshine Apr 2018 #93

So, in essence she can legitimize her anger lunatica Apr 2018 #99

It's basic psychology. If someone gets so angry at what you say ... earthshine Apr 2018 #101

My father went through a brief phase like that near the end of his life. Vinca Apr 2018 #94

Confirming once again -- Man created God in his own image. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2018 #100

My brother Rick is like that TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #109

This is very similar to my sister who lives in another state lunatica Apr 2018 #112

Ah yes. The inheritance TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #120

One thing .... LakeArenal Apr 2018 #111

My what a happy post. pangaia Apr 2018 #113

I know! lunatica Apr 2018 #114

Eh, just listen to Mozart instead. pangaia Apr 2018 #116

Paramahansa Yogananda, One of India's Greatest Masters of Yoga panfluteman Apr 2018 #115

Ive read his autobiography lunatica Apr 2018 #119

I am straight. You asked the very same question that I ask religious people concerning LGBTQ Blue_true Apr 2018 #117

Maybe they rush to get out of the way lunatica Apr 2018 #118