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alarimer

(17,146 posts)
25. For me it has.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 09:16 AM
Apr 2018

I am one "fuck you" away from being banned, probably. So I am careful (but why? This is only a website, one in which I feel unwelcome anyway. So why do I care? It's because I haven't found any other. Twitter, maybe, because it's more freewheeling, but also kind of awful.)

I see so many threads bashing Bernie Sanders for basically saying the sky is blue that I am sorely tempted to do that. When in fact, Sanders is a progressive, yes, and saying things that the Democratic Party really needs to listen to, and yet even Sanders isn't all that far left, in the history of leftism, anyway.

So many posters who laud MSNBC as the liberal answer, when it it just in fact a corporate news machine in love with ex-generals only because they happen to hate Trump as much as we do, but who are responsible for the ongoing war crime that is Iraq (this is why I listen to Counterspin and Democracy Now as an antidote to corporate media).

I see too many so-called "liberals" here who don't understand that it was the truly progressive policies of the past that made this country. FDR welcomed the hatred of bankers and rich people, while today's Democratic Party caters to them.

And, of course, if you are skeptical about the actual EFFECT of Russian meddling in the election (because I am skeptical that they actuall accomplished what we seem to think they did), you are labeled (here at least) a bot. I am also skeptical that Trump himself had anything to do with it. Sure, he is in debt up to his eyeballs to Russian mobsters and oligarchs and he has plenty of financial malfeasance we could get him on, but orchestrating a campaign with Russia to steal the election? Doubtful.

And it is also a bit ironic that we used to (back in the George W. Bush era) freely criticize opposition Democrats as spineless (because in those days many WERE) but now that sort of talk (even if it is true) gets your posts removed. This website started as a reaction to the Bush election. Yet it changed when Democrats gained power and became more establishment (for lack of a better word). Then the admonishment came to support all Democrats no matter how awful some of them might actually be. It's become a place where you cannot have substantive discussions of policy and how to achieve it. Instead it is about being on "Team Democrat" and it is the team sports aspects of this that despise. This, despite the obvious institutional failings of that party over the years. But we can't talk about it. You're either on the team or not.

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Summer always slows down a bit. Agschmid Apr 2018 #1
and weekends... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #2
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2018 #3
Summer? left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #17
Yup summer. Agschmid Apr 2018 #27
Seriously? left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #38
Yup, thats a whole lot warmer than it was and I take advantage of it. Agschmid Apr 2018 #58
Snowiest Summer I've ever had. NutmegYankee Apr 2018 #22
Summer? titaniumsalute Apr 2018 #31
It feels like Summer PasadenaTrudy Apr 2018 #39
We were in the 90's ChazII Apr 2018 #42
Where? titaniumsalute Apr 2018 #44
Phoenix, AZ ChazII Apr 2018 #45
OOf. That's hot. titaniumsalute Apr 2018 #46
It isn't hot, yet. 100+ ChazII Apr 2018 #47
I don't miss the hot, humid, sticky, moist, sucky summers of Florida titaniumsalute Apr 2018 #48
Summer? Sanity Claws Apr 2018 #52
Many times Ohiogal Apr 2018 #4
Yeah, it's always been like that. kentuck Apr 2018 #5
A post containing worthwhile information and a really good article will get 1 reply bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #51
I end up trashing a whole lot of posts Bettie Apr 2018 #6
Yes, it does seem like that to me too.. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #7
+1 shanny Apr 2018 #12
Glad I'm not the only one who sees it Bettie Apr 2018 #16
And Ill do the same from now on. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #20
Just got on a few minutes ago Bettie Apr 2018 #49
How do you "trash" these threads. Everyday 10x more Berniehate than anti Koch, Mercer, Ryan,etc stuffmatters Apr 2018 #54
Down at the bottom of the OP Bettie Apr 2018 #59
Thank you,Bettie stuffmatters Apr 2018 #61
i am going to take your advise and trash them too questionseverything Apr 2018 #55
Yes. I'm not even a Sanders supporter, but the hatefest is just ugly and gross. Crunchy Frog Apr 2018 #23
For me its both the love fests and hate fests for Sanders trixie2 Apr 2018 #53
Yup, the dedicated "hate Bernie" threads have driven me off Arazi Apr 2018 #15
Me too. Sick of hear that shit. n/t Greybnk48 Apr 2018 #21
Same here Raine Apr 2018 #24
ditto jodymarie aimee Apr 2018 #26
Indeed G_j Apr 2018 #37
Same here PasadenaTrudy Apr 2018 #40
Exactly!! It's depressing because it's dems shooting themselves in the foot...for what? rainin Apr 2018 #29
Yes, the Bernie bashing threads are out of control. Bluepinky Apr 2018 #33
I trash them from my feed. n/t Greybnk48 Apr 2018 #34
Sometimes the thread has nothing to do with Bernie Sanders. Bluepinky Apr 2018 #35
Me too Raine Apr 2018 #60
I have not posted much in the state groups for the past week TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #8
I am sorry to hear about your troubles. I hope you are feeling better soon, and Squinch Apr 2018 #9
That's an issue with a lot of cats... kentuck Apr 2018 #11
Yes to your first question Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #10
I think there is some burnout involved. Tatiana Apr 2018 #13
I got trolled in my Friday Night drinking thread in the Lounge. Aristus Apr 2018 #14
I read that... gees defacto7 Apr 2018 #18
The traffic on the Environment board seems way down NickB79 Apr 2018 #19
For me it has. alarimer Apr 2018 #25
Thanks for your comments. kentuck Apr 2018 #28
Thank you!! Well said. Except I believe trump and his family are up to their rainin Apr 2018 #30
Oh, the Trumps are guilty all right of lots of things. alarimer Apr 2018 #50
Good post. Bluepinky Apr 2018 #32
Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #36
News posting overall seems to have declined. With fewer paid journalists there is less news. hunter Apr 2018 #41
Not giving up, but I still work for a living, and have no "smart" phone over here. DFW Apr 2018 #43
Seems to be picking up today for some reason lol grantcart Apr 2018 #56
When I see thread after thread starting with "X just DESTROYED Y!" followed by a tweet... Hekate Apr 2018 #57
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