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Johnny2X2X

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60. The problem is technical knowledge

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:22 AM

Apr 2018

People makes statements like, "Well I don't give them hardly any of my data.", or "I only follow a few users." They are missing the point. Facebook(And Google etal.) is tracking your internet use in ways that the average person doesn't understand. They create a detailed psychological profile of you and that doesn't matter if you're putting fake info in or not. In fact, I'd bet they have an algorithm that tells them your real age if you lie about your age on Facebook. I bet they have programs that tell them all kinds of info about you that you don't imagine.

I could detail the hundreds of other shocking ways that Facebook is gathering and selling the data of its users, but that's not the point. The point is, they aren't being up front and open with what they do. If they explained to their users in plain language, their users would leave.

You are not a customer of Facebook, you are the product they are selling. Facebook's terms of service are not clear enough for people to fully understand. If they become clear enough to understand, Facebook's entire business model goes up in flames. If people really knew what they were agreeing to by using Facebook, they would almost universally reject it.

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I Say Shut Down Facebook For Sharing Our Data [View all] PaulX2 Apr 2018 OP

Are you going to shut down Google, too? And all the rest of social media? pnwmom Apr 2018 #1

Better to regulate and fix than to nuke it from orbit Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #3

Precisely Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #5

Companies like Facebook track you by more than just their site mythology Apr 2018 #51

And google doesnt? Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #53

The problem is technical knowledge Johnny2X2X Apr 2018 #60

You Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #65

Thats not true. NYC Liberal Apr 2018 #74

If You want information you will probably end up giving information nolabels Apr 2018 #81

More whataboutism Fullduplexxx Apr 2018 #48

No. Whataboutism cites irrelevant things. What Google and other social media pnwmom Apr 2018 #70

A thing's irrelevancy is subjective and usually defined by those making the arguement and therefore Fullduplexxx Apr 2018 #71

And you are merely avoiding the issue. It's not just Facebook. It's all the other social media, pnwmom Apr 2018 #73

Google is much worse than fakebook. Social Media in it's current form democratisphere Apr 2018 #80

Thanks for wanting to shut down one of the main areas my business works in Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #2

You gave them your data Lee-Lee Apr 2018 #4

Gee, who'd a thunk that FB did data banking? still_one Apr 2018 #8

I'm shocked, bullsnarfle Apr 2018 #33

Possible solution to the FB question Brawndo Apr 2018 #12

This makes sense. Eyeball_Kid Apr 2018 #54

why is no one upset with amazon? janterry Apr 2018 #6

Trump is plenty upset with Amazon Wednesdays Apr 2018 #19

well, now, for the wrong reasons janterry Apr 2018 #26

Because Trump is mad at them for different reasons.. vi5 Apr 2018 #56

Gee, who would have thought that a social site where people expose information about themselves, still_one Apr 2018 #7

FB has data on non members unc70 Apr 2018 #17

I don't do FB or Twitter, but I am well aware that if I post something on the internet, including DU still_one Apr 2018 #30

You don't even have to post, just visit unc70 Apr 2018 #31

yes, and that is not unique to FB. If you want to avoid that, use private browsing still_one Apr 2018 #32

Private browsing is only a partial solution unc70 Apr 2018 #44

You'll find little support here. JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #9

You mean like how Apple and Amazon are viewed? Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #15

meh, if they want to have the rights of a person... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #10

Prison time is imposed for breaking criminal laws. onenote Apr 2018 #28

Exactly Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #29

Well, for one... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #45

I say I continue to not use facebook JDC Apr 2018 #11

If you don't like Facebook, don't use it left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #13

Shut down FB? moonseller66 Apr 2018 #14

nothing personal, but.... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #22

No problem with your reply moonseller66 Apr 2018 #34

A month shutdown for an election that would close plenty of businesses Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #43

the world spun before fb, and it will spin after fb..... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #46

Sounds like the same as being said to farmers about the trade war Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #50

Feed the beast, vicious cycle style KTM Apr 2018 #83

Here we go again... mreilly Apr 2018 #16

It reminds me of the dutch boy plugging the single hole in the damn Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #18

Privacy settings are not a solution unc70 Apr 2018 #20

look, if a hacker did this getagrip_already Apr 2018 #24

FB is how i keep in touch with my extended family barbtries Apr 2018 #21

oh the inconvenience!!!! getagrip_already Apr 2018 #25

If it's not something you use much, of course you won't get excited over the loss of it Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #27

wow barbtries Apr 2018 #36

getagrip already - if it works for some folks, let them use it DrDan Apr 2018 #39

It's not the users fault or burden.... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #49

a 1-day shutdown? or longer? not going to happen DrDan Apr 2018 #55

fb has been down for days before.... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #62

those, of course, are not user-motivated - that's the issue here DrDan Apr 2018 #64

if a court ordered it based on legislation passed... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #67

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #75

Can you post procedure for closing Facebook Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #23

You don't have to close it permanently... getagrip_already Apr 2018 #47

Facebook has helped my business grow....... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #35

A 47-cent stamp letter will get you more business! Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #38

Because I can reach thousands of people....... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #40

Sounds very similar to me Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #41

We are of similar minds, then Blue_Adept........ ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #42

But but but Blue_Adept, listen! mreilly Apr 2018 #76

They're the same as the anti-amazon and anti-apple Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #77

Don't you think that might be a tad extreme DrDan Apr 2018 #37

Luckily I never signed up w/them CountAllVotes Apr 2018 #52

People willingly gave up their data. Hopefully this will get people dial back how much they share xor Apr 2018 #57

Seems like the best way to deal with Facebook for those KPN Apr 2018 #58

Id prefer a class action suit Clarity2 Apr 2018 #59

Every time use go online, use your cell, use a credit card, kiss your privacy goodbye Guilded Lilly Apr 2018 #61

I say "Let's not" Captain Stern Apr 2018 #63

What exactly would give the government authority to shut down Facebook? n/t tammywammy Apr 2018 #66

Don't worry, Our Revolution is all over this ucrdem Apr 2018 #68

Seems to me Facebook is just another un-American company. rockfordfile Apr 2018 #69

It's not just Facebook though...Data Mining is big biz.. HipChick Apr 2018 #72

Just shut down your account. MineralMan Apr 2018 #78

No... Mike Nelson Apr 2018 #79

It amazes me... Snackshack Apr 2018 #82