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IronLionZion

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88. We heard plenty of excuses why America would never elect Obama either

Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:44 PM

Apr 2018

until he won in a historic landslide winning lots of new states that our party had given up for decades

Obama did temper the experience issue by picking Grandpa Joe Biden for his running mate. Joe Kennedy doesn't offer that.

I'm with you on Kamala Devi Harris, but maybe a more experienced VP like a governor or mayor with executive experience or an elder statesman/woman with international relations experience to repair the damage Trump has done to the world. A good rust belt Dem with lots of support from labor and manufacturing might help also.

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What do you guys think about the following ticket? [View all] Upthevibe Apr 2018 OP

I like it a lot. CTyankee Apr 2018 #1

Neither one of them can beat Trump leftstreet Apr 2018 #2

A steaming pile of dogshit could beat that ass.🙄 we can do it Apr 2018 #4

Be prepared for a line about why Kamala is great, but...great, but. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #6

I don't know why anyone would say that leftstreet Apr 2018 #14

Incumbents aren't invincible and Trump is the John Fante Apr 2018 #19

Lowest approval rating, obviously in over his head treestar Apr 2018 #56

Which is what we thought in 2016, yes? GaYellowDawg Apr 2018 #71

Which states exboyfil Apr 2018 #76

You are underestimating what will happen when we nominate a black woman for President. TeamPooka Apr 2018 #12

America wasn't ready for a black President, either. Until it was. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #30

exactly TeamPooka Apr 2018 #38

True. As we all know, black men got the vote 50 years Hortensis Apr 2018 #50

Yes and no EffieBlack Apr 2018 #57

That's true. But it wasn't even codified for women, Hortensis Apr 2018 #61

But there was a difference EffieBlack Apr 2018 #63

I certainly won't argue that white women didn't have a Hortensis Apr 2018 #64

Agree. Id happily support her. And hed have a good following. nolabear Apr 2018 #49

Black women actually vote for Democrats. They won't need to be convinced JI7 Apr 2018 #54

We don't even know if we'll be running against trump by then. George II Apr 2018 #15

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #27

and i think you either greatly underestimate Trump or overestimate the American electorate 0rganism Apr 2018 #45

I think either of them can beat him. nini Apr 2018 #43

If we can fix the election system and keep the Russians out, DT would lose pnwmom Apr 2018 #47

Those are big 'ifs' leftstreet Apr 2018 #55

The people who have the power to fix it exboyfil Apr 2018 #77

Let's focus on midterms totally. Once that is done, we can look to 2020. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #3

Exactly DesertRat Apr 2018 #35

Ain't that the truth!!!!! tonyt53 Apr 2018 #80

LOve it, EASILY beats rump if we are allowed to vote and count our votes Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #5

Yes. Smart and caring ticket. we can do it Apr 2018 #9

K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #7

Schiff/kennedy Clarity2 Apr 2018 #8

No Congressnman has ever made the leap straight to POTUS without being a TeamPooka Apr 2018 #52

I dont know why that is but Clarity2 Apr 2018 #62

Honest Abe bottomofthehill Apr 2018 #73

Republicans will do some crazy stuff TeamPooka Apr 2018 #75

Good point, bottomofthehill... Upthevibe Apr 2018 #84

Midterms first, please! Nt Heartstrings Apr 2018 #10

I think that I will worry about 2018 before I even think about 2020. GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #11

I would rather see someone like Gov. Kate Brown duforsure Apr 2018 #13

I just looked her up.... Upthevibe Apr 2018 #44

If people on the Left actually show up to vote and nobody pouts or votes 3rd party, elocs Apr 2018 #16

Sharrod Brown/Julian Castro AJT Apr 2018 #17

November is looming, people peggysue2 Apr 2018 #18

I like them both, but lets see how 2018 goes first. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #20

Let's make it through 2018 first. Golden Raisin Apr 2018 #21

No thanks on Kennedy. Ace Rothstein Apr 2018 #22

On one issue youre going to delete him?? a kennedy Apr 2018 #69

It is a big issue for a lot of younger voters. Ace Rothstein Apr 2018 #72

young voters only care about the weed vote? a kennedy Apr 2018 #74

When did I say they only care about weed? Ace Rothstein Apr 2018 #83

No No No left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #23

Let's leave it alone for awhile. Too many people here RandomAccess Apr 2018 #24

Blah Lebam in LA Apr 2018 #25

Explain Bucky Apr 2018 #33

Tammy Duckworth!!! Squinch Apr 2018 #26

let's do the upcoming midterms first msdogi Apr 2018 #28

Way too early to tell. KPN Apr 2018 #29

Adam Schiff is my current favorite! ananda Apr 2018 #31

I will vote for and work for just about anyone we nominate. Bucky Apr 2018 #32

Cory Booker/Sherrod Brown. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #34

Two men? oberliner Apr 2018 #42

Cory Booker/Catherine Cortez Masto DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #53

Senator Masto is an intriguing choice exboyfil Apr 2018 #81

If we don't take over the House in OldHippieChick Apr 2018 #36

Nothing. That's the next fight. Not the current one. Iggo Apr 2018 #37

Biden-Harris louis c Apr 2018 #39

Finally DAMANgoldberg Apr 2018 #60

Exactly my opinion louis c Apr 2018 #86

There's a lot an African-American woman would bring to the ticket. Tatiana Apr 2018 #40

Yes, true there's a lot an African-American woman would bring to the ticket. elleng Apr 2018 #78

Solid oberliner Apr 2018 #41

+1 0rganism Apr 2018 #46

OMG!!!!!!!!!!! Upthevibe Apr 2018 #48

Adam Schiff / Joe Kennedy Iii democratisphere Apr 2018 #51

I love Schiff too...n/t Upthevibe Apr 2018 #67

Adam is a real level headed, smart leader! democratisphere Apr 2018 #70

You need someone from the midwest exboyfil Apr 2018 #79

Midterms first, please. GOTV Hekate Apr 2018 #58

Exactly. Not interested in speculating beyond that right now. DFW Apr 2018 #87

Sounds good but then again I thought Clinton/Kaine would win. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #59

We would be making a huge mistake in nominating a female Awsi Dooger Apr 2018 #65

WTF? stevenleser Apr 2018 #66

Wow...........n/t Upthevibe Apr 2018 #68

google the following: Kamala Harris Mnuchen OneWest Bank shanny Apr 2018 #82

It sure beats Bolton / Hannity Kablooie Apr 2018 #85

We heard plenty of excuses why America would never elect Obama either IronLionZion Apr 2018 #88