Step 2A. The same DUers who believed Weiner's denials, (Reply #19)

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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 09:12 PM

Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)

19. Step 2A. The same DUers who believed Weiner's denials,

and who still believe that the 1973 Rather memo was genuine, post repeatedly, insistently, and vociferously that the horrible looking returns are definitely genuine.

Step 2B. Some DUers point out possible red flags and express doubts about the veracity of the documents.

Step 2C. The DUers from step 2B are vehemently ridiculed and accused of "defending Romney" by the DUers from step 2A. Flamewars and PPRings ensue.

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92 replies	Author	Time	Post
Beware of this Rovian maneuver... it is coming. [View all]	scheming daemons	Jul 2012	OP
Great Observation and thanks for the recall....very familiar turf!!!	lostnote12	Jul 2012	#1
How Breitbart & the RW blogosphere operates.	JaneyVee	Jul 2012	#2
Good to start putting it out there. This sounds entirely plausible.	calimary	Jul 2012	#3
Rove bugged his own office... the diabolical shithead	Agony	Jul 2012	#4
Yep... forgot about that... that was when Rove was first rewarded for this kind of trickery	scheming daemons	Jul 2012	#6
What bastards.	greytdemocrat	Jul 2012	#9
He is a diabolical shithead	siligut	Jul 2012	#10
How will they prove it's a fake tax return if they don't release a real one?	aint_no_life_nowhere	Jul 2012	#5
Yes. That ploy would only work if the existence of the tax returns were	JDPriestly	Aug 2012	#44
What I see happening is rMoney will produce the real document as the OP is saying	madokie	Aug 2012	#49
Maybe. But as I've said before......	AverageJoe90	Aug 2012	#88
Redacted originals is what we'll get if we get that	madokie	Aug 2012	#90
They will have a form that was for a latter year and then when it comes out show that	grantcart	Aug 2012	#67
But won't that require Romney to release his real tax return?	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug 2012	#69
The tax return story will be secondary to the fake return story.	Blanks	Aug 2012	#75
From what I recall, the substance of the Killian memo was disputed - it was the only story	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug 2012	#78
Yeah, that's how I remember it now that you point it out.	Blanks	Aug 2012	#89
they will be able to prove that it was a faked form with a counterfeit form that can be proven not	grantcart	Aug 2012	#76
But how does Romney get around the requirement of showing the real return?	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug 2012	#79
And such a manuever could very well backfire on him.	AverageJoe90	Aug 2012	#82
If Rove had his shit together, the GOP would not have this ongoing clusterfuck with Romney.	randome	Jul 2012	#7
Not necessarily Rove himself... but someone who has the same lack of character.	scheming daemons	Jul 2012	#8
The Obama Campaign is not so easily deluded, though.	randome	Jul 2012	#11
Plus, I don't know if Brian Williams or any other TV news person at his level would be so	CTyankee	Aug 2012	#70
"Rove got lucky once" tell that to Don Siegelman, Pete McCrae and Mike Moeller	Agony	Jul 2012	#13
Oh, I agree, don't be lax.	randome	Jul 2012	#16
Rove's only trick is to sink lower than anyone could anticipate. n/t	A Simple Game	Jul 2012	#15
We have a killer campaign machine this time around, though.	randome	Jul 2012	#17
...and because we don't think like them, we never do anticipate	bbgrunt	Aug 2012	#74
Somehow, I'm not sure I can disagree with most of this.	AverageJoe90	Jul 2012	#25
RMoney had plenty of help	bluescribbler	Aug 2012	#55
They were not ready in 2008, either. See the pattern?	randome	Aug 2012	#56
And they're even, a LOT more desperate now.	AverageJoe90	Aug 2012	#81
A lack of ethics and morals	The Wizard	Jul 2012	#34
I agree with that	madokie	Aug 2012	#50
are you sure you are in the right place?	mopinko	Aug 2012	#59
Uh...what?	randome	Aug 2012	#65
Predicted this one a couple of weeks ago.	ThoughtCriminal	Jul 2012	#12
Team Obama understands this and is being proactive.	madinmaryland	Jul 2012	#14
rove learned at the feet of one of the most vile and dangerous political consultants...	spanone	Jul 2012	#18
Lee Atwater: “You start out in 1954 by saying, ‘Nigger, nigger, nigger.’”	66 dmhlt	Aug 2012	#54
Step 2A. The same DUers who believed Weiner's denials,	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#19
I think Rove graduated from those little pranks......to murder.	Th1onein	Jul 2012	#20
Don't Forget GOP vote rigging consultant Mike Connell	raincity_calling	Aug 2012	#86
forewarned = forearmed .. But this trick is getting a	annabanana	Jul 2012	#21
I'm not quite buying this scenario, TBH. Not yet, anyhow.	AverageJoe90	Jul 2012	#22
No. Romney does have something to hide.	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#24
It's only a 'perfectly plausible plan' if we want to be afraid.	randome	Jul 2012	#26
Not afraid. Sceptical and vigilant (nt)	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#30
Okay, then!	randome	Jul 2012	#32
That dog won't hunt...	Jeff In Milwaukee	Jul 2012	#23
I am not so sure that they can't find someone to take the bait.	zeemike	Aug 2012	#46
Wikileaks	Johnny2X2X	Jul 2012	#27
Just one really good lie could turn this election upside down	Jessy169	Jul 2012	#28
Well.....	AverageJoe90	Aug 2012	#85
What IBM selectric font will rove use?	Brother Buzz	Jul 2012	#29
I don't think I'm go with that one ...	bayareaboy	Jul 2012	#31
Far more damaging . . .	Richard D	Jul 2012	#33
I also thought about that	Jessy169	Jul 2012	#36
One thing certain people seem to have forgotten.......	AverageJoe90	Jul 2012	#41
how to stunt Rove.	Javaman	Jul 2012	#35
That's my thought, too...	KansDem	Aug 2012	#51
Correct. So they'd have to use an untraceable source.	klook	Aug 2012	#87
Yup	caraher	Jul 2012	#37
I'll wait, but I'll throw $100 down right now nothing does come...	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2012	#38
well if it were betting with Mitt	bayareaboy	Jul 2012	#39
I'd expect said "news" organization to be in on the fake return.	blkmusclmachine	Jul 2012	#40
Kick tweeted	grahamhgreen	Aug 2012	#42
Won't work. No one will accept a tax return unless it has been officially	JDPriestly	Aug 2012	#43
Maybe, but.....	AverageJoe90	Aug 2012	#83
More likely -- Romney will release "amended," that is, altered	JDPriestly	Aug 2012	#45
And even that might well backfire on him. nt	AverageJoe90	Aug 2012	#48
Karma is inescapable	Berlum	Aug 2012	#47
The only other individual who was King of the Fake-Out was Andy Kaufman.	no_hypocrisy	Aug 2012	#52
Admittedly, this, too, is plausible.	AverageJoe90	Aug 2012	#77
The problem, IT WILL WORK with too many American voters.	liberal N proud	Aug 2012	#53
I think your right on the money and I find your handle very apropos.	raouldukelives	Aug 2012	#57
You've got a perfect username and I'm right there with you.	12AngryBorneoWildmen	Aug 2012	#58
Don't warn us, warn the MSM.	Curmudgeoness	Aug 2012	#60
Romney's new ad is criticizing Obama for saving the auto industry!	louis-t	Aug 2012	#61
No time to be complacent, people.	33Greeper	Aug 2012	#62
scheming daemons, you have been hacked ...	coldbeer	Aug 2012	#63
The thing about Rove is that we are watching him more closely and he knows we are breathing down his	kimbutgar	Aug 2012	#64
Another possible (parallel) scenario:	skip fox	Aug 2012	#66
that's a great observation	LiberalLovinLug	Aug 2012	#72
You're right, this is exactly what they do	mojowork_n	Aug 2012	#68
If this happens, watch Romney's reaction VERY carefully	Canuckistanian	Aug 2012	#71
you probably mean "unwitting"	TrogL	Aug 2012	#73
He even broke into his own office in Texas and blamed it on Ann Richards!	Zen Democrat	Aug 2012	#80
they don't play fair and they will do some underhanded stuff but	arely staircase	Aug 2012	#84
Great observation.	magnifisense	Aug 2012	#91
They did today on :	Shiraz	Aug 2012	#92

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