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In reply to the discussion: I know many DUers hate him but I love Ralph Nader [View all]Gothmog
(182,788 posts)27. Nader was funded by Rove and Rove used Nader to win in 2000
I will never forgive nader Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html
Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Naders campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the APs Laura Meckler headlined GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads. She opened: Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of, Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: Whats Al Gores real record? Nader says: Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken. Mecklers report continued: A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Naders speeches. Bushs people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....
On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independents Bid a Financial Lift, and reported that the Nader campaign has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party, according to an analysis of federal records. Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egans other friends. Mr. Egans wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year. Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under Swift Boat Veterans for Nader, that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerrys Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Naders signatures in their state (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing states 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bushs big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.
It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bushs real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. Thats why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.
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"If you drive a car and you are alive and well, you owe a lot to Ralph Nader."....
George II
May 2018
#81
It's really a stretch to blame Nadar for the Iraq war etc. I mean REALLY. nt
Kirk Lover
May 2018
#107
No, this isnt hard. If you enable a Republican to get elected, typical GOP policies will ensue
stevenleser
May 2018
#143
He jumped the shark and lost all relevance more that 20 years ago. FUCK NADER.
madinmaryland
May 2018
#77
It's is political bigotry. It was not the green party but, Stein who was used
lovemydogs
May 2018
#28
In 1965 I wanted Corvair Monza Spider convertable. Then out comes "Unsafe at Any Speed"
wasupaloopa
May 2018
#20
Yes he was wrong about that. He still did a lot of good. People have a mixture of
Autumn
May 2018
#119
Nader was one of the driving forces in creating the Environmental Protection Agency.
Autumn
May 2018
#35
And then he helped elect Bush who gutted environmental protection...screw him.
Demsrule86
May 2018
#51
Yeah and Bush's justices made gave the righties the majority...without Nader we would not have
Demsrule86
May 2018
#59
Same with the Russian Princess Jill Stein...the Greens should hide their heads in shame...they have
Demsrule86
May 2018
#125
And beavers were one of the driving forces in the design of the Hoover Dam.
mahatmakanejeeves
May 2018
#136
This is how we got Trump...our system will never support third parties...all you get is Republicans.
Demsrule86
May 2018
#126
Nader is still an idiot and believe his own propaganda....I won't watch Ari if he continues to have
Demsrule86
May 2018
#128
This once-proud and unapologetic Nader 2000 voter says Ralph can piss right the fuck off...
Blue_Tires
May 2018
#31
Seriously? He cost us the WH and helped elect W. That's not a small thing. NT
Bleacher Creature
May 2018
#32
The Green Party Has Done as Much as Any Group to Destroy Environmental Protections
Stallion
May 2018
#38
Not me, I loved him when he did his job as a consumer advocate but when
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#46
I hate him with the passion of 1000 burning suns...he got us in two wars, got us united, a couple of
Demsrule86
May 2018
#48
Yeah for sure...an environmentalist who helped 'save' the environment by electing GOP types...
Demsrule86
May 2018
#71
Last time I heard from Ralph Nader he was at a Cisco shareholders meeting
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
May 2018
#74
I'll say it again...mixed bag.......Nader created the safety movement in cars...
Stuart G
May 2018
#80
How many were killed in Iraq because of bush? How many are still being killed because...
George II
May 2018
#82
Yes, I'm sure there are some whose lives were saved by safety belts and airbags....
George II
May 2018
#86
All it took was Florida, by a few thousand votes: bush 277, Gore 266, Florida was worth 25.
George II
May 2018
#89
And then Nader wouldn't have had the opportunity to call the first black president "Uncle Tom"
sweetloukillbot
May 2018
#98
I hate him, Jill Stein and Nina Turner...all helped give us a GOP shitbag as president...W
Demsrule86
May 2018
#131
I turn it into action...and support candidates who can mitigate the damage...Democratic Candidates.
Demsrule86
May 2018
#134
Indeed. The only thing that has worked in getting progress in the last 40 years. (nt)
ehrnst
May 2018
#139
The top countries on that list are very homogenous, very white protestant nations.
ehrnst
May 2018
#137
Japan is also a homogenous nation ehrnst but they don't rank high on the happiness scale.
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#144
In the last 40 years the middle class has greatly shrunk, the poor are even more destitute
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#152
Considering the odds against Bernie, how well he did, how some Democratic Political leaders
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#154
I never said you hated him, I told you how I felt. Of course there are plenty of people here
Uncle Joe
May 2018
#169
Anybody who doesn't know the difference between Dems and Republicans is an idiot.
betsuni
May 2018
#122
Nader lied during the election. He said he'd withdraw if the Gore-Bush vote in Florida was close.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
May 2018
#132
He has done more damage to this country in the past 20 years than ANYONE on the left
scheming daemons
May 2018
#156