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MyOwnPeace

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94. Stu,

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:11 PM

May 2018

You've covered the reason for the disparity with regard to Ralph Nader.

As you've cited, great reasons to love him - and other reasons to despise him.

I'm sure that we could make this thread go on forever, only to be interrupted for reasons NOT to nominate IQ45 for the Nobel Peace Prize!

Great response - thank you!

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I know many DUers hate him but I love Ralph Nader [View all] malaise May 2018 OP

I'm with you there malaise. Marie Marie May 2018 #1

Me too. nt Snotcicles May 2018 #93

How can you say that knowing, without a doubt, that Nader InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #103

With you there! roscoeroscoe May 2018 #142

Seriously! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #145

Misspelling SCOTUS ? GeorgeGist May 2018 #170

No SCOTUS if no SCROTUS (Nader)! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #172

Haven't seen him on TV in forever. n/t cynatnite May 2018 #2

He is on Ari Melber right now... DURHAM D May 2018 #13

He's irrelevant. I don't see the need to pay him any attention. n/t cynatnite May 2018 #18

Address your comment to Ari Melber. DURHAM D May 2018 #22

If you drive a car and you are alive and well, you owe a lot to Ralph Nader. Sophia4 May 2018 #76

Well, I could be in awe of him if he hadn't sold out in 2000 & 2004... cynatnite May 2018 #79

"If you drive a car and you are alive and well, you owe a lot to Ralph Nader.".... George II May 2018 #81

I'm sure Republicans are thanking him for the Roberts' court lapucelle May 2018 #99

It's really a stretch to blame Nadar for the Iraq war etc. I mean REALLY. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #107

No, this isnt hard. If you enable a Republican to get elected, typical GOP policies will ensue stevenleser May 2018 #143

Exactly easttexaslefty May 2018 #84

Bull Tribalceltic May 2018 #101

Children should not be in the front seats where the airbags are. Children are Sophia4 May 2018 #108

ALL That Work Was Already Going On ProfessorGAC May 2018 #112

Getting automobile companies to adopt the new safety features and getting Sophia4 May 2018 #159

That's Not What I Said ProfessorGAC May 2018 #161

The difficult part was getting automobile companies to spend the money to Sophia4 May 2018 #163

Nader saved the U.S. car industry from its sorry self. hunter May 2018 #168

Can't stand him manor321 May 2018 #3

No the crooked ReTHUGs and the Supreme Court gave America Bush n/t malaise May 2018 #5

He played his part as a useful idiot n/m RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #42

No. People like Ralphie Boy know EXACTLY what is at stake Drahthaardogs May 2018 #55

Nader denialism lives! redstateblues May 2018 #52

+1 BannonsLiver May 2018 #63

Any paricular reason for love fest? Just curious... RestoreAmerica2020 May 2018 #4

Seat belts malaise May 2018 #6

He jumped the shark and lost all relevance more that 20 years ago. FUCK NADER. madinmaryland May 2018 #77

That bandwagon was already rolling along before Nader ever jumped on it Major Nikon May 2018 #109

He just said Democat party wasupaloopa May 2018 #7

He said Demcratic first and then Democrat malaise May 2018 #9

Ahh, memories... wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #102

He said it a couple times BumRushDaShow May 2018 #15

You're probably a better person Corgigal May 2018 #8

Isn't it political bigotry (as he said re another issue) malaise May 2018 #14

I didn't decide shit, Corgigal May 2018 #17

It's is political bigotry. It was not the green party but, Stein who was used lovemydogs May 2018 #28

Jill was an opportunist MythosMaster May 2018 #39

"I see no reason why he's on Ari right now." BumRushDaShow May 2018 #36

Me too. He did a lot of good, but I still loved my Corvair Autumn May 2018 #10

In 1965 I wanted Corvair Monza Spider convertable. Then out comes "Unsafe at Any Speed" wasupaloopa May 2018 #20

Love it malaise May 2018 #24

Nader was wrong about the Corvair Major Nikon May 2018 #110

Yes he was wrong about that. He still did a lot of good. People have a mixture of Autumn May 2018 #119

... Scurrilous May 2018 #11

He just said he expects the moron to BigmanPigman May 2018 #12

he has always been my hero jodymarie aimee May 2018 #16

Binders are comfotable for some I guess. wasupaloopa May 2018 #23

That cuts both ways. BannonsLiver May 2018 #64

Me too! MuseRider May 2018 #19

Nadar was right on Ari's program lovemydogs May 2018 #21

Ding ding malaise May 2018 #26

Who said we're "scared" of third parties? Blue_Tires May 2018 #34

Nader was one of the driving forces in creating the Environmental Protection Agency. Autumn May 2018 #35

And then he helped elect Bush who gutted environmental protection...screw him. Demsrule86 May 2018 #51

The Supreme Court made that decision. Autumn May 2018 #58

Yeah and Bush's justices made gave the righties the majority...without Nader we would not have Demsrule86 May 2018 #59

We have a winner here! nt jrthin May 2018 #83

Same with the Russian Princess Jill Stein...the Greens should hide their heads in shame...they have Demsrule86 May 2018 #125

And beavers were one of the driving forces in the design of the Hoover Dam. mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #136

I'll give credit where credit is due. I don't seek or expect perfection. Autumn May 2018 #140

Agree. I thought he was spot on. vsrazdem May 2018 #47

This is how we got Trump...our system will never support third parties...all you get is Republicans. Demsrule86 May 2018 #126

That is naive bullshittery. NT Adrahil May 2018 #104

Nader is still an idiot and believe his own propaganda....I won't watch Ari if he continues to have Demsrule86 May 2018 #128

I don't support anyone whose willing to drive the entire truck off a cliff cynatnite May 2018 #25

Got 'ya covered! MyOwnPeace May 2018 #56

Nader was funded by Rove and Rove used Nader to win in 2000 Gothmog May 2018 #27

Yep. DURHAM D May 2018 #29

Nader pledged to not campaign actively in close states in 2000 mcar May 2018 #62

Nader took Rove's money and Rove funded nader for a reason Gothmog May 2018 #65

It's an all too familiar pattern with Green candidates mcar May 2018 #66

Interesting how Rove's superpac helped to shape the last election... ehrnst May 2018 #135

Rove is a dangerous and smart man Gothmog May 2018 #138

We got citizens united and the Roberts court standingtall May 2018 #30

Do not forget the gutting of the Voting Rights Act Gothmog May 2018 #43

And Citizens United led to Trump (along with undoing the Voting Rights Act). LisaM May 2018 #54

This once-proud and unapologetic Nader 2000 voter says Ralph can piss right the fuck off... Blue_Tires May 2018 #31

Seriously? He cost us the WH and helped elect W. That's not a small thing. NT Bleacher Creature May 2018 #32

A list of Ralph Nader's acomplishements: Downtown Hound May 2018 #33

All my friends have their little foibles that I overlook. Enjoy. Hekate May 2018 #37

Hehehehehe malaise May 2018 #44

The Green Party Has Done as Much as Any Group to Destroy Environmental Protections Stallion May 2018 #38

i found him to be judgy and condescending...but thats just MY opinion... samnsara May 2018 #40

Nader is the reason why Bush was elected Gothmog May 2018 #41

There are still those who can't accept the truth redstateblues May 2018 #53

I used to love Ralph randr May 2018 #45

Not me, I loved him when he did his job as a consumer advocate but when Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #46

I hate him with the passion of 1000 burning suns...he got us in two wars, got us united, a couple of Demsrule86 May 2018 #48

But, MyOwnPeace May 2018 #61

Yeah for sure...an environmentalist who helped 'save' the environment by electing GOP types... Demsrule86 May 2018 #71

My GAWD!!!!!!!! MyOwnPeace May 2018 #91

It is the truth. Demsrule86 May 2018 #129

Disappointment not hate. Sneederbunk May 2018 #49

Loathsome individual who gave us President Bush oberliner May 2018 #50

"String him up & feed him to the dawgs!" Jeesh appalachiablue May 2018 #57

Love you, malaise mcar May 2018 #60

Stange....mixed bag..shit and the very best wine/cheese... Stuart G May 2018 #69

Stu, MyOwnPeace May 2018 #94

Love you back malaise May 2018 #73

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #67

Man it's so good to see you malaise May 2018 #72

It's good to see you too malaise Uncle Joe May 2018 #114

Well, he made it possible for me to buy a MineralMan May 2018 #68

I see that the Corvair is a big factor malaise May 2018 #75

If I were going to have an early 60s car, as so many men MineralMan May 2018 #121

"...300,000 Democrats in Florida voted for Bush in 2000" eleny May 2018 #70

That may be true............ MyOwnPeace May 2018 #97

. eleny May 2018 #100

Last time I heard from Ralph Nader he was at a Cisco shareholders meeting Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2018 #74

I don't hate him, I did after 2000 but Raine May 2018 #78

I'll say it again...mixed bag.......Nader created the safety movement in cars... Stuart G May 2018 #80

How many were killed in Iraq because of bush? How many are still being killed because... George II May 2018 #82

You can say what you want..you said, "I don't think they balace out at all." Stuart G May 2018 #85

Yes, I'm sure there are some whose lives were saved by safety belts and airbags.... George II May 2018 #86

Yes...IEDs in Iraq..killed thousands...Yes... Stuart G May 2018 #88

All it took was Florida, by a few thousand votes: bush 277, Gore 266, Florida was worth 25. George II May 2018 #89

My mother's life was saved by a seat belt when she was run off the road ms liberty May 2018 #111

I think he is a fraud and nothing he has ever done WhiteTara May 2018 #87

Me too. marybourg May 2018 #90

Be sure to thank for Dubya. Adrahil May 2018 #92

Without Dubya there wouldn't have been Obama. marybourg May 2018 #95

And then Nader wouldn't have had the opportunity to call the first black president "Uncle Tom" sweetloukillbot May 2018 #98

Do think hundreds of thousands of deaths was worth it? Adrahil May 2018 #105

W caused so much damage...and we are still at war because of him. There is Demsrule86 May 2018 #130

The "pricks of the world"...do not want to be associated with ...Dubya... Stuart G May 2018 #96

People change. dreamland May 2018 #106

Sorry Malaise. Not With You On This One ProfessorGAC May 2018 #113

I knew there was a reason I liked you, The_jackalope May 2018 #115

I think Ralph has said and done a lot of stuff Democrats disagree with... kentuck May 2018 #116

I have discovered this to be true malaise May 2018 #127

I liked him until he became convinced he was presidential material. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #117

+1 dalton99a May 2018 #118

+1 betsuni May 2018 #123

I wish Ralph had never ran against Al Gore but I can't hate someone Uncle Joe May 2018 #124

I hate him, Jill Stein and Nina Turner...all helped give us a GOP shitbag as president...W Demsrule86 May 2018 #131

Don't let your hate consume you Demsrule. Uncle Joe May 2018 #133

I turn it into action...and support candidates who can mitigate the damage...Democratic Candidates. Demsrule86 May 2018 #134

Indeed. The only thing that has worked in getting progress in the last 40 years. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #139

That is correct...and how much better would things be if there had been no Demsrule86 May 2018 #146

The top countries on that list are very homogenous, very white protestant nations. ehrnst May 2018 #137

Japan is also a homogenous nation ehrnst but they don't rank high on the happiness scale. Uncle Joe May 2018 #144

Long term progressive change is why I'm a Democrat ehrnst May 2018 #150

In the last 40 years the middle class has greatly shrunk, the poor are even more destitute Uncle Joe May 2018 #152

So you don't acknowledge the progress for LGBTQs, Women, POC ehrnst May 2018 #157

It's okay to follow one's conscience. But, in following jrthin May 2018 #153

Considering the odds against Bernie, how well he did, how some Democratic Political leaders Uncle Joe May 2018 #154

I never said I hated him. ehrnst May 2018 #166

I never said you hated him, I told you how I felt. Of course there are plenty of people here Uncle Joe May 2018 #169

I wonder who DU'ers hate more... CanSocDem May 2018 #120

Really? Blue_Tires May 2018 #141

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #147

Anybody who doesn't know the difference between Dems and Republicans is an idiot. betsuni May 2018 #122

Nader lied during the election. He said he'd withdraw if the Gore-Bush vote in Florida was close. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #132

Who would have guessed.... CanSocDem May 2018 #149

... BannonsLiver May 2018 #158

Have you thanked him for helping to give us Trumpocalypse May 2018 #148

that is very brave of you to say here G_j May 2018 #151

Very well said and Michael Moore does come to mind malaise May 2018 #155

maybe this G_j May 2018 #160

+1,000 malaise May 2018 #164

He has done more damage to this country in the past 20 years than ANYONE on the left scheming daemons May 2018 #156

A little bored today are we? ismnotwasm May 2018 #162

I like him for his consumer advocacy TNLib May 2018 #165

I like the good work he has done mvd May 2018 #167

What was he saying? wonkwest May 2018 #171

Trump and the fascist GOP love him too! workinclasszero May 2018 #173