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Hoyt

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15. I'm not shouting because that's not the only thing that cost us election -- Dems who voted for

Thu May 24, 2018, 03:40 PM

May 2018

trump or 3rd party candidate, those who sat out election, etc., over disappointment their guy didn't win primary hurt us. Comey cost us. Stupid people willing to accept lies hurt us. People who thought she had it and stayed home hurt us. Racism/bigotry hurt us. Democrats who don't usually vote and didn't again, cost us.

There is no evidence -- other than "it could have happened" -- that votes were flipped.

Personally, I think trying to make Russia the scapegoat is counterproductive.

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DNI Clapper says Russia swung the election. Understand that. It was rigged. They flipped votes. [View all] deminks May 2018 OP

K&R... spanone May 2018 #1

Yup. The KGOP repubes & russians stole the election from the American people Achilleaze May 2018 #2

No evidence manor321 May 2018 #3

He has seen the evidence G_j May 2018 #9

Given the OP is charitably misinterpreting what Clapper said mythology May 2018 #31

Lots of evidence Botany May 2018 #10

Wow! Had not heard of this before. triron May 2018 #12

Russia was so bold that two of the hackers left calling cards Botany May 2018 #13

You don't know that. Clapper is not some nobody off the street. brush May 2018 #40

The Russians accessed voter databases in 39 states! triron May 2018 #4

HRC lost by a total of 80,000 votes over three states, correct? Ilsa May 2018 #5

That makes a lot of sense alwaysinasnit May 2018 #14

26 out of 28 states gave Trump more votes than exit polls predicted! triron May 2018 #16

Holy Crap! alwaysinasnit May 2018 #17

They flipped votes in the form of their disinformation campaign worked. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #6

Precisely Sherman A1 May 2018 #8

Agree to your comment BUT bluestarone May 2018 #38

Yea TimeToGo May 2018 #18

Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan have not gone for an R as President. Botany May 2018 #7

Agreed! I've lived in PA for the past 25 years JoeOtterbein May 2018 #24

I forgot the date WI, PA, & MI have not gone for the GOP since 1984 Botany May 2018 #26

Clapper said the Russian interference ... Whiskeytide May 2018 #11

I'm not shouting because that's not the only thing that cost us election -- Dems who voted for Hoyt May 2018 #15

absolutely NRaleighLiberal May 2018 #19

and the same is planned for this November. C Moon May 2018 #20

The apathy over this is baffling lunamagica May 2018 #21

well, the KGOP is benefiting from the russian cyber war elmac May 2018 #25

I hear you. BlueWI May 2018 #35

For one thing, this isn't new news. MSNBC may make it Hortensis May 2018 #22

As Rachel Maddow pointed out the Soviet Russians tried this before. gordianot May 2018 #23

Wow! I did not know this ailsagirl May 2018 #28

No link but Maddow reported it last night. gordianot May 2018 #33

Words fail me. Really. ailsagirl May 2018 #45

The media's reaction to this has shockingly been, quite wtf ? Mr. Sparkle May 2018 #27

I think many of us here on DU smelled a rat on election night. flying_wahini May 2018 #29

that was clear to me before the 2016 election onetexan May 2018 #30

I've known that since the morning of November 9, 2016 when it "won" MI. catbyte May 2018 #32

Where did you see 3000? MichMan May 2018 #39

Here are the numbers I saw: catbyte May 2018 #41

Don't Overestimate These Clowns Westcoast52 May 2018 #34

We have shouted this from rooftops. Repugs have taller rooftops. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #36

He IS illegitimate. But the reason politicians don't say it... Honeycombe8 May 2018 #37

Clapper DID NOT SAY Russia flipped votes RandomAccess May 2018 #42

I don't think Clapper has said that. Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #43

Dont know if any of it is provable D_Master81 May 2018 #44

K&R Scurrilous May 2018 #46