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Va Lefty

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29. Thank you for voicing an unpopular opinion

Fri May 25, 2018, 07:08 PM

May 2018

you may well be right that "this is just the type of Trumpian Red Meat that WILL drive our opponents to the polls." There comes a time, when you must make a stand, even if the rest of the sheep say "that's baaaaaad."

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Most Democrats should be for standing for the national anthem. [View all] DemoHack May 2018 OP

Why? eom guillaumeb May 2018 #1

Thank you! DemoHack May 2018 #6

You did provoke some discussion. eom guillaumeb May 2018 #25

I strongly disagree. We should let people do as they please, be it stand, sit, kneel, sleep, etc. LonePirate May 2018 #2

I agree. You must not have read what I said. DemoHack May 2018 #78

Horseshit... Democrats are for freedom of speech and against police brutality above fake patriotism InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #3

HORSHIIT -- HA HA ! Well, THAT was to the point... pangaia May 2018 #44

Im not standing MFM008 May 2018 #4

Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey May 2018 #121

What if they were taking a knee... DemoHack May 2018 #5

Fine with me. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #19

Fine with me, too. John Stuart Mill AND the First Amendment! raging moderate May 2018 #75

They have the right to use their First Amendment rights however they want. You seem to Squinch May 2018 #31

Not true. DemoHack May 2018 #56

Give it up. You are wrong in your assumption that Democrats are hypocrites. Squinch May 2018 #63

It's their Constitutional right to protest lunatica May 2018 #54

That's not a place of employment for those protesting...apples to cactus. AncientGeezer May 2018 #98

It the 1st amendment lunatica May 2018 #111

Oh yeah? Well what if they were taking a knee to protest freedom of speech? Iggo May 2018 #123

I will defend to the death you're right to stand , sit, or take a knee DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #7

I didn't say it should be forbidden. DemoHack May 2018 #8

WE are a party of choice!!!!!!!!! bluestarone May 2018 #10

That whole choice thing seems to be a new concept for this one. Squinch May 2018 #35

PS: I wondered about the figure too. CNN says 6 in 10 support taking a knee. Squinch May 2018 #48

yea figures!! bluestarone May 2018 #73

That figure is meaningless without context. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #13

See my post 41. They're not even trying any more. Squinch May 2018 #43

I am not for iconoclasm for the sake of iconoclasm. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #49

I'm not a football person, but if I were, this middle-aged white lady would absolutely be kneeling. Squinch May 2018 #74

Give me one good reason why we should support the 77%. shraby May 2018 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch May 2018 #36

Bwahahahahahaha!!!! Whatever source gave you 77%, it's more batshit crazy than INFOWARS!!!!! Squinch May 2018 #41

Why? pangaia May 2018 #46

A majority of Americans opposed interracial marriage in 1967 and thought MLK was "divisive." EffieBlack May 2018 #66

THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #94

++ nt heaven05 May 2018 #106

And Mississippi polls show that if it could be implemented (white voters) again they would support Demsrule86 May 2018 #117

No we should be individuals and use our own minds to determine what we do wasupaloopa May 2018 #95

Link to your statement please mcar May 2018 #112

Crickets. Squinch May 2018 #119

THIS is the ONLY way to be!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone May 2018 #9

Will you defend the right of the employers to fire employees for detrimental Co. behavior? AncientGeezer May 2018 #100

Do I think a person should be fired for peacefully following his or her conscience ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #102

Do you think a company should be able to fire employees for refusing to pray when their Squinch May 2018 #105

So, in order to win the election everybody should stand for the anthem and completely ignore Afromania May 2018 #11

It's a phony ginned up issue. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #15

Oh my god cyclonefence May 2018 #61

It's a phony ginned up issue Trump is using to divide people. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #67

What I had said was...... Afromania May 2018 #113

I agree with this...just another way to divide us...it is all these losers have. We shouldn't fall Demsrule86 May 2018 #118

When you inadvertently insult someone the proper response is to apologize DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #81

Where do I go to to get my reputation back ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #86

Still no apology DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #120

I guess you completely ignored what I wrote. DemoHack May 2018 #57

As democrats, we should focus on clearly explaining why EVERYONE has a right to do what they choose Blue_true May 2018 #12

Just an FYI about being part of the crown. pennylane100 May 2018 #26

Um, I thought that Dems didn't tell others what they should or should not do kydo May 2018 #14

Lots of brand spanking new posters telling us how we should react to the NFL, though, aren't there? Squinch May 2018 #24

+1. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #30

I think they really think we don't notice. Squinch May 2018 #33

3 guesses....... pangaia May 2018 #51

Yep. It's just the kind of idiocy they like to spin. Squinch May 2018 #82

Most of the new posters mean well. Blue_true May 2018 #55

I've been lurking around since 2002. DemoHack May 2018 #59

Reread my post. Blue_true May 2018 #65

You're a very respectful and thoughtful person. DemoHack May 2018 #71

No problem. The Demo party is a big tent party. Republicans lean facist, except the ones that have Blue_true May 2018 #77

Some do. Some are here to stir division using specific issues, complete with bogus statistics. Squinch May 2018 #84

You make point, but members are able to figure that out. Blue_true May 2018 #110

Well good for you. Squinch May 2018 #114

My patriotism is not defined by standing for a song. Caliman73 May 2018 #16

Most people do stand. Some people don't. We all make choices for whatever reason. sunRISEnow May 2018 #17

Some people use the anthem as a chance to go get food and beer. Blue_true May 2018 #60

Kinda like how putting a magnet slogan on a car really NRaleighLiberal May 2018 #18

And all those heading for the concessions to get snacks? Do they stop what they are doing ... Hekate May 2018 #20

I do think you're right in that we should be trying to assume the mantle of patriotism... renegade000 May 2018 #21

I suspect folks of all political bents stand for the Anthem. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #22

+1 TheRealNorth May 2018 #42

If I ever decide to take a knee it will be because someone said I couldn't. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #45

Bullshit. And who are you to be telling Democrats what to do? The RIGHT thing to do Squinch May 2018 #23

+++++++ + pangaia May 2018 #52

Remember standing for the anthem is also a sign of respect... DemoHack May 2018 #64

A lot of swearing and vitriol. Not many coherent arguments as to why I am wrong... DemoHack May 2018 #68

Remember, there is nothing DISRESPECTFUL about KNEELING for the flag. Squinch May 2018 #72

No, it's not EffieBlack May 2018 #80

Outstanding points. +1000 bronxiteforever May 2018 #88

man, you are good at this.............. ++++++++++++++++ pangaia May 2018 #89

"... standing for the anthem is also a sign of respect...For the veterans who fought and died for pangaia May 2018 #87

Use a canoe paddle. It stirs much more effectively. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #27

Thank you for voicing an unpopular opinion Va Lefty May 2018 #29

I'll give full-throated support for everyone standing for the national anthem when RockRaven May 2018 #32

+1 MontanaMama May 2018 #47

Next! Scurrilous May 2018 #34

How 'bout we just don't play anything Ccarmona May 2018 #37

I only stand for the Hendrix version Blues Heron May 2018 #38

+1000 livetohike May 2018 #50

I even cry with that version! lunatica May 2018 #58

People should mind their own fucking business. This idiotic fake ass patriotism has gotten Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #39

I don't like the song and I don't like football. hunter May 2018 #40

Umm... No... WePurrsevere May 2018 #53

Democrats are for being respectful EffieBlack May 2018 #62

There is not a thing you said, that I disagree with. DemoHack May 2018 #79

Then why do you say that Democrats should stand? EffieBlack May 2018 #83

Democrats should support and defend all choices GulfCoast66 May 2018 #69

I will take it one at a time. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #70

Nope thegoose May 2018 #76

Democrats should be making up their own minds, not letting someone else do it Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #85

It's sad that enough people fell for this to create 85 replies. PSPS May 2018 #90

Alternative anthem for SWs and other peaceniks ucrdem May 2018 #91

Every time someone takes on Trump with social issues they loose nt doc03 May 2018 #92

What? Better: white and black DUers kneel TOGETHER sharedvalues May 2018 #93

Fuck that bullshit. TRUTH BEFORE RECONCILIATION. n/t Cal Carpenter May 2018 #96

Damn straight!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #97

FUCK THAT! denbot May 2018 #99

Standing for the anthem is not the 'right thing to do.' When the country has sinkingfeeling May 2018 #101

cool story bro ! I stand for no anthem . stonecutter357 May 2018 #103

I think democrats should be standing for the Constitution ooky May 2018 #104

We should compel everyone to stand to demonstrate how free we are Major Nikon May 2018 #107

That's a lot of words but no argument at all. Codeine May 2018 #108

Your post made me think of this article wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #109

"People Who Self Identify as Centrists" would be more accurate. N/T lapucelle May 2018 #122

I'm pro-choice on standing for the national anthem. eShirl May 2018 #115

I choose to stand for the national anthem...not sure I should until after Trump is gone...with him Demsrule86 May 2018 #116