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EffieBlack

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62. Democrats are for being respectful

Fri May 25, 2018, 07:44 PM

May 2018

Which Colin Kaepernick was doing by kneeling quietly - upon the advice of a Navy Seal veteran.

We are also for freedom of speech and expression and not having the government or anyone else tell us or anyone else what it means to us to be respectful.

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Most Democrats should be for standing for the national anthem. [View all] DemoHack May 2018 OP

Why? eom guillaumeb May 2018 #1

Thank you! DemoHack May 2018 #6

You did provoke some discussion. eom guillaumeb May 2018 #25

I strongly disagree. We should let people do as they please, be it stand, sit, kneel, sleep, etc. LonePirate May 2018 #2

I agree. You must not have read what I said. DemoHack May 2018 #78

Horseshit... Democrats are for freedom of speech and against police brutality above fake patriotism InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #3

HORSHIIT -- HA HA ! Well, THAT was to the point... pangaia May 2018 #44

Im not standing MFM008 May 2018 #4

Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey May 2018 #121

What if they were taking a knee... DemoHack May 2018 #5

Fine with me. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #19

Fine with me, too. John Stuart Mill AND the First Amendment! raging moderate May 2018 #75

They have the right to use their First Amendment rights however they want. You seem to Squinch May 2018 #31

Not true. DemoHack May 2018 #56

Give it up. You are wrong in your assumption that Democrats are hypocrites. Squinch May 2018 #63

It's their Constitutional right to protest lunatica May 2018 #54

That's not a place of employment for those protesting...apples to cactus. AncientGeezer May 2018 #98

It the 1st amendment lunatica May 2018 #111

Oh yeah? Well what if they were taking a knee to protest freedom of speech? Iggo May 2018 #123

I will defend to the death you're right to stand , sit, or take a knee DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #7

I didn't say it should be forbidden. DemoHack May 2018 #8

WE are a party of choice!!!!!!!!! bluestarone May 2018 #10

That whole choice thing seems to be a new concept for this one. Squinch May 2018 #35

PS: I wondered about the figure too. CNN says 6 in 10 support taking a knee. Squinch May 2018 #48

yea figures!! bluestarone May 2018 #73

That figure is meaningless without context. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #13

See my post 41. They're not even trying any more. Squinch May 2018 #43

I am not for iconoclasm for the sake of iconoclasm. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #49

I'm not a football person, but if I were, this middle-aged white lady would absolutely be kneeling. Squinch May 2018 #74

Give me one good reason why we should support the 77%. shraby May 2018 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch May 2018 #36

Bwahahahahahaha!!!! Whatever source gave you 77%, it's more batshit crazy than INFOWARS!!!!! Squinch May 2018 #41

Why? pangaia May 2018 #46

A majority of Americans opposed interracial marriage in 1967 and thought MLK was "divisive." EffieBlack May 2018 #66

THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #94

++ nt heaven05 May 2018 #106

And Mississippi polls show that if it could be implemented (white voters) again they would support Demsrule86 May 2018 #117

No we should be individuals and use our own minds to determine what we do wasupaloopa May 2018 #95

Link to your statement please mcar May 2018 #112

Crickets. Squinch May 2018 #119

THIS is the ONLY way to be!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone May 2018 #9

Will you defend the right of the employers to fire employees for detrimental Co. behavior? AncientGeezer May 2018 #100

Do I think a person should be fired for peacefully following his or her conscience ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #102

Do you think a company should be able to fire employees for refusing to pray when their Squinch May 2018 #105

So, in order to win the election everybody should stand for the anthem and completely ignore Afromania May 2018 #11

It's a phony ginned up issue. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #15

Oh my god cyclonefence May 2018 #61

It's a phony ginned up issue Trump is using to divide people. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #67

What I had said was...... Afromania May 2018 #113

I agree with this...just another way to divide us...it is all these losers have. We shouldn't fall Demsrule86 May 2018 #118

When you inadvertently insult someone the proper response is to apologize DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #81

Where do I go to to get my reputation back ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #86

Still no apology DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #120

I guess you completely ignored what I wrote. DemoHack May 2018 #57

As democrats, we should focus on clearly explaining why EVERYONE has a right to do what they choose Blue_true May 2018 #12

Just an FYI about being part of the crown. pennylane100 May 2018 #26

Um, I thought that Dems didn't tell others what they should or should not do kydo May 2018 #14

Lots of brand spanking new posters telling us how we should react to the NFL, though, aren't there? Squinch May 2018 #24

+1. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #30

I think they really think we don't notice. Squinch May 2018 #33

3 guesses....... pangaia May 2018 #51

Yep. It's just the kind of idiocy they like to spin. Squinch May 2018 #82

Most of the new posters mean well. Blue_true May 2018 #55

I've been lurking around since 2002. DemoHack May 2018 #59

Reread my post. Blue_true May 2018 #65

You're a very respectful and thoughtful person. DemoHack May 2018 #71

No problem. The Demo party is a big tent party. Republicans lean facist, except the ones that have Blue_true May 2018 #77

Some do. Some are here to stir division using specific issues, complete with bogus statistics. Squinch May 2018 #84

You make point, but members are able to figure that out. Blue_true May 2018 #110

Well good for you. Squinch May 2018 #114

My patriotism is not defined by standing for a song. Caliman73 May 2018 #16

Most people do stand. Some people don't. We all make choices for whatever reason. sunRISEnow May 2018 #17

Some people use the anthem as a chance to go get food and beer. Blue_true May 2018 #60

Kinda like how putting a magnet slogan on a car really NRaleighLiberal May 2018 #18

And all those heading for the concessions to get snacks? Do they stop what they are doing ... Hekate May 2018 #20

I do think you're right in that we should be trying to assume the mantle of patriotism... renegade000 May 2018 #21

I suspect folks of all political bents stand for the Anthem. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #22

+1 TheRealNorth May 2018 #42

If I ever decide to take a knee it will be because someone said I couldn't. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #45

Bullshit. And who are you to be telling Democrats what to do? The RIGHT thing to do Squinch May 2018 #23

+++++++ + pangaia May 2018 #52

Remember standing for the anthem is also a sign of respect... DemoHack May 2018 #64

A lot of swearing and vitriol. Not many coherent arguments as to why I am wrong... DemoHack May 2018 #68

Remember, there is nothing DISRESPECTFUL about KNEELING for the flag. Squinch May 2018 #72

No, it's not EffieBlack May 2018 #80

Outstanding points. +1000 bronxiteforever May 2018 #88

man, you are good at this.............. ++++++++++++++++ pangaia May 2018 #89

"... standing for the anthem is also a sign of respect...For the veterans who fought and died for pangaia May 2018 #87

Use a canoe paddle. It stirs much more effectively. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #27

Thank you for voicing an unpopular opinion Va Lefty May 2018 #29

I'll give full-throated support for everyone standing for the national anthem when RockRaven May 2018 #32

+1 MontanaMama May 2018 #47

Next! Scurrilous May 2018 #34

How 'bout we just don't play anything Ccarmona May 2018 #37

I only stand for the Hendrix version Blues Heron May 2018 #38

+1000 livetohike May 2018 #50

I even cry with that version! lunatica May 2018 #58

People should mind their own fucking business. This idiotic fake ass patriotism has gotten Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #39

I don't like the song and I don't like football. hunter May 2018 #40

Umm... No... WePurrsevere May 2018 #53

Democrats are for being respectful EffieBlack May 2018 #62

There is not a thing you said, that I disagree with. DemoHack May 2018 #79

Then why do you say that Democrats should stand? EffieBlack May 2018 #83

Democrats should support and defend all choices GulfCoast66 May 2018 #69

I will take it one at a time. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #70

Nope thegoose May 2018 #76

Democrats should be making up their own minds, not letting someone else do it Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #85

It's sad that enough people fell for this to create 85 replies. PSPS May 2018 #90

Alternative anthem for SWs and other peaceniks ucrdem May 2018 #91

Every time someone takes on Trump with social issues they loose nt doc03 May 2018 #92

What? Better: white and black DUers kneel TOGETHER sharedvalues May 2018 #93

Fuck that bullshit. TRUTH BEFORE RECONCILIATION. n/t Cal Carpenter May 2018 #96

Damn straight!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #97

FUCK THAT! denbot May 2018 #99

Standing for the anthem is not the 'right thing to do.' When the country has sinkingfeeling May 2018 #101

cool story bro ! I stand for no anthem . stonecutter357 May 2018 #103

I think democrats should be standing for the Constitution ooky May 2018 #104

We should compel everyone to stand to demonstrate how free we are Major Nikon May 2018 #107

That's a lot of words but no argument at all. Codeine May 2018 #108

Your post made me think of this article wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #109

"People Who Self Identify as Centrists" would be more accurate. N/T lapucelle May 2018 #122

I'm pro-choice on standing for the national anthem. eShirl May 2018 #115

I choose to stand for the national anthem...not sure I should until after Trump is gone...with him Demsrule86 May 2018 #116