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Demsrule86

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54. There is already increased monitoring...they want to rip kids away and not have anyone check into

Mon May 28, 2018, 10:40 AM

May 2018

what happens to them...given the quality of ICE...no doubt kids will be raped by ICE and sold to traffickers...and we play into their hands by not checking up on these kids...not buying it. They can increase monitoring anytime they want. These kids have nothing to do with anything. This is a ploy to give the GOP and Shittler relief from this very effective story. I feel people who buy this are being duped.

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Important Twitter thread: "Please stop sharing that story about 1500 kids missing" [View all] oberliner May 2018 OP

Until the children are returned to their parents, they are missing! randr May 2018 #1

In other words . . . MousePlayingDaffodil May 2018 #4

No, but I read Snopes. pnwmom May 2018 #17

Thank you for posting this Gothmog May 2018 #48

You read it, you just didn't understand it grantcart May 2018 #98

Yep n/t malaise May 2018 #127

true heaven05 May 2018 #14

Funny how Trump is losing with this story and someone post a thread how we should stop pushing it... Demsrule86 May 2018 #31

How is Trump losing if all this outrage leads to increased monitoring powers? hexola May 2018 #35

There is already increased monitoring...they want to rip kids away and not have anyone check into Demsrule86 May 2018 #54

Not everything is about Trump karynnj May 2018 #46

It is a tweet...sorry one person's opinion...you had to look long and hard to find something that Demsrule86 May 2018 #52

This is NOT my op, although I am grateful that the OP posted it karynnj May 2018 #61

I disagree...there is widespread criticism of Trump ...and then suddenly some earnestly Demsrule86 May 2018 #63

No one is saying to stop speaking of the new Sessions order to separate kids and parents karynnj May 2018 #76

But they are. Where do you think some of these kids are coming from? kcr May 2018 #80

Some background for that answer in this post hexola May 2018 #86

Do you think this has stopped? kcr May 2018 #88

No - and I think that has been made perfectly clear. hexola May 2018 #89

No need for quotes. Children actually are being ripped from their parents. kcr May 2018 #92

By equating previous policies with Trump's new policy, some are in fact offering up the same defense Demsrule86 May 2018 #128

You are so wrong - you fell for the trap hexola May 2018 #131

I am not equating the Obama and Trump policies karynnj May 2018 #134

Thank you for this insightful piece... hexola May 2018 #2

I found it very informative oberliner May 2018 #7

Thank you bornfree17 May 2018 #3

Bookmarking Delphinus May 2018 #5

Thanks once again for a very important clarification. Freethinker65 May 2018 #6

Great post and a sobering reminder Takket May 2018 #8

Thank you oberliner May 2018 #9

Sorry but I can't find anything that backs up what this person says kcr May 2018 #10

The OP suggests this is just what Trump wants. hexola May 2018 #16

Trump is being castigated even by the right for this...so I call bullshit. Demsrule86 May 2018 #32

That Mother Jones article backs up just about everything this person says oberliner May 2018 #18

Nice cherry picking kcr May 2018 #66

Well we both selected one quote from that person which supported our argument oberliner May 2018 #75

I presented the entire article kcr May 2018 #77

Why would ORR want to deport any of them treestar May 2018 #90

Explained in detail in # 100 below grantcart May 2018 #101

I'm doing no such thing kcr May 2018 #104

You are conflating two different situations, and obviously you didn't read grantcart May 2018 #109

Families weren't separated then. They are now. It isn't conflating to recognize that. kcr May 2018 #111

Thank you blue cat May 2018 #106

No, show proof and back up your statements with facts leftofcool May 2018 #11

There are no facts. And while the truth is during the previous administration, relatives could come Demsrule86 May 2018 #34

Thank you. I don't get the denial. kcr May 2018 #97

see #100 below. Conflating two different stories grantcart May 2018 #102

Bottom line: This regurgitates Republican excuses. Hortensis May 2018 #12

No - the OP carves that out nicely hexola May 2018 #20

You forgot the sarcasm emoji for the good sense in Hortensis May 2018 #27

One person's opinion and without monitoring kids could end up with sex trafficers...if family or Demsrule86 May 2018 #36

That's the thing, many of them COULD withstand monitoring under OBAMA ... but not anymore ... mr_lebowski May 2018 #110

That is a very good point. Demsrule86 May 2018 #126

This piece is by a left-wing activist oberliner May 2018 #23

Please reconsider vetting your sources and Hortensis May 2018 #29

+1000 Demsrule86 May 2018 #37

I hate to say it, but a tiny number of left wingers have a blind spot when it comes to Trump kcr May 2018 #99

The tweeter specifically calls out Trump's policy. tammywammy May 2018 #107

She "calls it out", then hand waves it away by saying people are conflating. kcr May 2018 #108

You mean the story that Snopes confirmed? pnwmom May 2018 #13

OK - Delphinus May 2018 #19

Yes oberliner May 2018 #21

The subtly of the information you posted seems to go right over the heads pangaia May 2018 #50

Agreed.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #132

And another person who didn't read the OP hexola May 2018 #24

It is twitter not an OP...one person's unvetted opinon. Demsrule86 May 2018 #38

There has been a good deal of vetting oberliner May 2018 #78

Though we don't always see eye to eye, I suspect your take, and the tweeters ... mr_lebowski May 2018 #95

some of the kids have run away thus are unaccounted for but..... samnsara May 2018 #26

In this thread I explained how these two stories are getting mixed together grantcart May 2018 #103

Thanks for the info.... paleotn May 2018 #15

Let's not cut Gump any slack, hundreds of children ARE John Fante May 2018 #122

"They aren't all being trafficked. They aren't dead. " IronLionZion May 2018 #22

Sorry... just not buying this Tribalceltic May 2018 #25

Just don't buy into the idea that "SO FAR, they have separated 1500 children from their parents..." hexola May 2018 #30

We need better monitoring for these kids being ripped from their parent's arms...because in Demsrule86 May 2018 #39

Thats just a bogues as saying "we need to arm teachers to protect against school shootings..." hexola May 2018 #40

No that is not the issue. children are being ripped away from their parents and not looked after Demsrule86 May 2018 #55

Wrong grantcart May 2018 #105

Thank you for posting perdita9 May 2018 #28

This is true...my ex is a child welfare atty in arizona... she told me the same thing zaj May 2018 #33

Thanks karynnj May 2018 #51

Knowing the legal issue is a good thing ... ananda May 2018 #41

Separating the children should be fought, but it is not clear the kids are 'llost' but just not foun karynnj May 2018 #49

If they can separate them at the border, what stops them separating anywhere else? Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #42

Nah..... spicysista May 2018 #43

She does point out that the current WH policy is despicable oberliner May 2018 #73

I respect your appeal.... spicysista May 2018 #81

Snopes say it's real, no way will I stop sharing this story. Insane what our nation has become. sarcasmo May 2018 #44

This does not dispute anything in the "Snopes" article on the same subject oberliner May 2018 #72

These are the children that were resettled between 2014 and 2016 right? madville May 2018 #45

They have to go to a hearing to make the asylum case treestar May 2018 #93

Thanks for posting this it is important karynnj May 2018 #47

You're welcome oberliner May 2018 #71

It's 10 p.m., do you know where your children are? dreamland May 2018 #53

Sure - lets just make monitoring mandatory for all minors in US Borders! hexola May 2018 #83

Not trying to debate but. jackcrow2001 May 2018 #56

Some good points... Snackshack May 2018 #57

You raise a good point oberliner May 2018 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #58

So you are telling none of them have been trafficked? ismnotwasm May 2018 #59

I don't think that is what she is saying oberliner May 2018 #74

There is This Line In The Tweet Me. May 2018 #91

An attorney? A writer? h2ebits May 2018 #60

She seems less professional on Twitter, perhaps writing in haste. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #62

Have you ever heard of the Fair Punishment Project? oberliner May 2018 #67

Personally, when typing on a phone.... AndJusticeForSome May 2018 #82

A prison bus for small children with baby seats. wallyworld2 May 2018 #64

That is also an old photo, as you noted oberliner May 2018 #65

Trump is responsible for the separation of these children from their parents Gothmog May 2018 #68

No doubt about that oberliner May 2018 #69

The following acts are considered as genocide by the UN General Assembly randr May 2018 #79

Trump is blaming Democrats for separating migrant families at the border. Here's why this isn't a su Gothmog May 2018 #84

Thanks for posting. AndJusticeForSome May 2018 #85

Just want to add another thing kcr May 2018 #87

It does seem like you are conflating two different issues though (as the OP warned against) oberliner May 2018 #94

Those 1500 kids were from before Trump's policy were in place kcr May 2018 #96

I answered in detail in 112 grantcart May 2018 #114

But no one is advocating for ICE to go round them up. kcr May 2018 #115

That is exactly what you are advocating, you just don't realize it grantcart May 2018 #117

The ones who advocate for quiet are the ones who help Trump. Full stop n/t kcr May 2018 #119

You are missing the point, which is understandable because most news organizations are too grantcart May 2018 #112

Do you honestly think this is about siccing ICE on them? Come on. kcr May 2018 #113

So you want these 1500 children that arrived as unaccompanied minors grantcart May 2018 #116

I think the one who still thinks things are the same as the Obama admin kcr May 2018 #118

lol, I documented the same thing on Saturday and people refuse to read or understand grantcart May 2018 #100

I've been pointing it out as well madville May 2018 #120

lolololol! kcr May 2018 #121

Conflate this! hexola May 2018 #123

Ivanka has no problem with sexual asssult, attacking disabled, and other fucked up JI7 May 2018 #124

Thank you for adding this oberliner May 2018 #125

Thanks! Posts like this keep me involved in DU. nt LAS14 May 2018 #129

You're welcome oberliner May 2018 #130

K&R.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #133