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oberliner

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78. There has been a good deal of vetting

Mon May 28, 2018, 12:16 PM

May 2018

Here's a follow up she posted in response to the questions that were raised by the initial thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210665988

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Important Twitter thread: "Please stop sharing that story about 1500 kids missing" [View all] oberliner May 2018 OP

Until the children are returned to their parents, they are missing! randr May 2018 #1

In other words . . . MousePlayingDaffodil May 2018 #4

No, but I read Snopes. pnwmom May 2018 #17

Thank you for posting this Gothmog May 2018 #48

You read it, you just didn't understand it grantcart May 2018 #98

Yep n/t malaise May 2018 #127

true heaven05 May 2018 #14

Funny how Trump is losing with this story and someone post a thread how we should stop pushing it... Demsrule86 May 2018 #31

How is Trump losing if all this outrage leads to increased monitoring powers? hexola May 2018 #35

There is already increased monitoring...they want to rip kids away and not have anyone check into Demsrule86 May 2018 #54

Not everything is about Trump karynnj May 2018 #46

It is a tweet...sorry one person's opinion...you had to look long and hard to find something that Demsrule86 May 2018 #52

This is NOT my op, although I am grateful that the OP posted it karynnj May 2018 #61

I disagree...there is widespread criticism of Trump ...and then suddenly some earnestly Demsrule86 May 2018 #63

No one is saying to stop speaking of the new Sessions order to separate kids and parents karynnj May 2018 #76

But they are. Where do you think some of these kids are coming from? kcr May 2018 #80

Some background for that answer in this post hexola May 2018 #86

Do you think this has stopped? kcr May 2018 #88

No - and I think that has been made perfectly clear. hexola May 2018 #89

No need for quotes. Children actually are being ripped from their parents. kcr May 2018 #92

By equating previous policies with Trump's new policy, some are in fact offering up the same defense Demsrule86 May 2018 #128

You are so wrong - you fell for the trap hexola May 2018 #131

I am not equating the Obama and Trump policies karynnj May 2018 #134

Thank you for this insightful piece... hexola May 2018 #2

I found it very informative oberliner May 2018 #7

Thank you bornfree17 May 2018 #3

Bookmarking Delphinus May 2018 #5

Thanks once again for a very important clarification. Freethinker65 May 2018 #6

Great post and a sobering reminder Takket May 2018 #8

Thank you oberliner May 2018 #9

Sorry but I can't find anything that backs up what this person says kcr May 2018 #10

The OP suggests this is just what Trump wants. hexola May 2018 #16

Trump is being castigated even by the right for this...so I call bullshit. Demsrule86 May 2018 #32

That Mother Jones article backs up just about everything this person says oberliner May 2018 #18

Nice cherry picking kcr May 2018 #66

Well we both selected one quote from that person which supported our argument oberliner May 2018 #75

I presented the entire article kcr May 2018 #77

Why would ORR want to deport any of them treestar May 2018 #90

Explained in detail in # 100 below grantcart May 2018 #101

I'm doing no such thing kcr May 2018 #104

You are conflating two different situations, and obviously you didn't read grantcart May 2018 #109

Families weren't separated then. They are now. It isn't conflating to recognize that. kcr May 2018 #111

Thank you blue cat May 2018 #106

No, show proof and back up your statements with facts leftofcool May 2018 #11

There are no facts. And while the truth is during the previous administration, relatives could come Demsrule86 May 2018 #34

Thank you. I don't get the denial. kcr May 2018 #97

see #100 below. Conflating two different stories grantcart May 2018 #102

Bottom line: This regurgitates Republican excuses. Hortensis May 2018 #12

No - the OP carves that out nicely hexola May 2018 #20

You forgot the sarcasm emoji for the good sense in Hortensis May 2018 #27

One person's opinion and without monitoring kids could end up with sex trafficers...if family or Demsrule86 May 2018 #36

That's the thing, many of them COULD withstand monitoring under OBAMA ... but not anymore ... mr_lebowski May 2018 #110

That is a very good point. Demsrule86 May 2018 #126

This piece is by a left-wing activist oberliner May 2018 #23

Please reconsider vetting your sources and Hortensis May 2018 #29

+1000 Demsrule86 May 2018 #37

I hate to say it, but a tiny number of left wingers have a blind spot when it comes to Trump kcr May 2018 #99

The tweeter specifically calls out Trump's policy. tammywammy May 2018 #107

She "calls it out", then hand waves it away by saying people are conflating. kcr May 2018 #108

You mean the story that Snopes confirmed? pnwmom May 2018 #13

OK - Delphinus May 2018 #19

Yes oberliner May 2018 #21

The subtly of the information you posted seems to go right over the heads pangaia May 2018 #50

Agreed.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #132

And another person who didn't read the OP hexola May 2018 #24

It is twitter not an OP...one person's unvetted opinon. Demsrule86 May 2018 #38

There has been a good deal of vetting oberliner May 2018 #78

Though we don't always see eye to eye, I suspect your take, and the tweeters ... mr_lebowski May 2018 #95

some of the kids have run away thus are unaccounted for but..... samnsara May 2018 #26

In this thread I explained how these two stories are getting mixed together grantcart May 2018 #103

Thanks for the info.... paleotn May 2018 #15

Let's not cut Gump any slack, hundreds of children ARE John Fante May 2018 #122

"They aren't all being trafficked. They aren't dead. " IronLionZion May 2018 #22

Sorry... just not buying this Tribalceltic May 2018 #25

Just don't buy into the idea that "SO FAR, they have separated 1500 children from their parents..." hexola May 2018 #30

We need better monitoring for these kids being ripped from their parent's arms...because in Demsrule86 May 2018 #39

Thats just a bogues as saying "we need to arm teachers to protect against school shootings..." hexola May 2018 #40

No that is not the issue. children are being ripped away from their parents and not looked after Demsrule86 May 2018 #55

Wrong grantcart May 2018 #105

Thank you for posting perdita9 May 2018 #28

This is true...my ex is a child welfare atty in arizona... she told me the same thing zaj May 2018 #33

Thanks karynnj May 2018 #51

Knowing the legal issue is a good thing ... ananda May 2018 #41

Separating the children should be fought, but it is not clear the kids are 'llost' but just not foun karynnj May 2018 #49

If they can separate them at the border, what stops them separating anywhere else? Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #42

Nah..... spicysista May 2018 #43

She does point out that the current WH policy is despicable oberliner May 2018 #73

I respect your appeal.... spicysista May 2018 #81

Snopes say it's real, no way will I stop sharing this story. Insane what our nation has become. sarcasmo May 2018 #44

This does not dispute anything in the "Snopes" article on the same subject oberliner May 2018 #72

These are the children that were resettled between 2014 and 2016 right? madville May 2018 #45

They have to go to a hearing to make the asylum case treestar May 2018 #93

Thanks for posting this it is important karynnj May 2018 #47

You're welcome oberliner May 2018 #71

It's 10 p.m., do you know where your children are? dreamland May 2018 #53

Sure - lets just make monitoring mandatory for all minors in US Borders! hexola May 2018 #83

Not trying to debate but. jackcrow2001 May 2018 #56

Some good points... Snackshack May 2018 #57

You raise a good point oberliner May 2018 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #58

So you are telling none of them have been trafficked? ismnotwasm May 2018 #59

I don't think that is what she is saying oberliner May 2018 #74

There is This Line In The Tweet Me. May 2018 #91

An attorney? A writer? h2ebits May 2018 #60

She seems less professional on Twitter, perhaps writing in haste. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #62

Have you ever heard of the Fair Punishment Project? oberliner May 2018 #67

Personally, when typing on a phone.... AndJusticeForSome May 2018 #82

A prison bus for small children with baby seats. wallyworld2 May 2018 #64

That is also an old photo, as you noted oberliner May 2018 #65

Trump is responsible for the separation of these children from their parents Gothmog May 2018 #68

No doubt about that oberliner May 2018 #69

The following acts are considered as genocide by the UN General Assembly randr May 2018 #79

Trump is blaming Democrats for separating migrant families at the border. Here's why this isn't a su Gothmog May 2018 #84

Thanks for posting. AndJusticeForSome May 2018 #85

Just want to add another thing kcr May 2018 #87

It does seem like you are conflating two different issues though (as the OP warned against) oberliner May 2018 #94

Those 1500 kids were from before Trump's policy were in place kcr May 2018 #96

I answered in detail in 112 grantcart May 2018 #114

But no one is advocating for ICE to go round them up. kcr May 2018 #115

That is exactly what you are advocating, you just don't realize it grantcart May 2018 #117

The ones who advocate for quiet are the ones who help Trump. Full stop n/t kcr May 2018 #119

You are missing the point, which is understandable because most news organizations are too grantcart May 2018 #112

Do you honestly think this is about siccing ICE on them? Come on. kcr May 2018 #113

So you want these 1500 children that arrived as unaccompanied minors grantcart May 2018 #116

I think the one who still thinks things are the same as the Obama admin kcr May 2018 #118

lol, I documented the same thing on Saturday and people refuse to read or understand grantcart May 2018 #100

I've been pointing it out as well madville May 2018 #120

lolololol! kcr May 2018 #121

Conflate this! hexola May 2018 #123

Ivanka has no problem with sexual asssult, attacking disabled, and other fucked up JI7 May 2018 #124

Thank you for adding this oberliner May 2018 #125

Thanks! Posts like this keep me involved in DU. nt LAS14 May 2018 #129

You're welcome oberliner May 2018 #130

K&R.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #133