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procon

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83. What's the payoff then?

Thu May 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

May 2018

If a positive change isn't goal, then there must be a negative purpose in continuing to use a race based jibe. Does that need any definition?

After days and days of efforts, since no one seems to be able the meet your shifting standards, why don't you just post a numbered list of suitable definitions that match your agenda.

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Wyp*** [View all] ecstatic May 2018 OP

this topic reeks of Russian troll farm PubliusEnigma May 2018 #1

Who else has been using that word? wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #2

LOL. That is an ironic comment. boston bean May 2018 #73

Absolutely. We know who they are. Doodley Jun 2018 #89

I am amused and amazed how many wipipo get so wrapped around the axles over this. Why are people.... marble falls May 2018 #3

👍 NurseJackie May 2018 #45

Agree! Just think.. we have the ability to seriously tone down the Russian troll affect Thekaspervote May 2018 #8

Please link to Russian trolls exploiting this. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #109

I simply trash every thread about it. cwydro Jun 2018 #113

Agreed. Doodley Jun 2018 #88

Yes, black twitter is owned by Russia. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #108

Thank you. applegrove May 2018 #4

Thanks, and I agree the term reeks of Russian troll farm. Sophia4 May 2018 #5

Russian troll farms don't play well on black Twitter EffieBlack May 2018 #6

Ouch!!!!! guillaumeb May 2018 #7

And that is why people troll black twitter-era. bettyellen May 2018 #80

Tracy Morgan played a huge role in its creation BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #121

It's part of the circular firing squad left-of-center2012 May 2018 #9

No trolls. No Russians. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #10

while some people are trying to take offense at something not aimed at them. kwassa May 2018 #11

I think if you take a step back ecstatic May 2018 #17

I think some white people are overthinking it. kwassa May 2018 #22

I wish I'd seen your answer before writing a reply because I like it better. nt gollygee May 2018 #24

I understand the context completely. Key words: "casual joke among black people" ecstatic May 2018 #30

The point is to communicate, among black people, about some white people. kwassa May 2018 #37

If I want to vent to other black people, it won't be on DU:GD, ecstatic May 2018 #52

Michael Harriot admits it's a racial epithet Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #47

Wow, great to see someone finally label Harriot correctly. BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #111

In all seriousness, did you actually bother to read the part you excerpted? mythology May 2018 #60

Yes, I read it and you don't get it. kwassa May 2018 #75

Set the "powerless racism" aspect to the side for a moment-- ecstatic May 2018 #84

"Predudice plus power" is a textbook Big Lie Bok_Tukalo Jun 2018 #120

"[L]ying to himself to justify his own bigotry" Bok_Tukalo Jun 2018 #119

Jokes that refer to skin color have a name. RACIST! Doodley Jun 2018 #91

If a bunch of guys were talking about women like that, it would not be equivalent gollygee May 2018 #23

I don't think it's funny. It doesn't make me feel any better ecstatic May 2018 #33

I'm white so I don't feel like I have a place to police the language of African Americans gollygee May 2018 #35

The institutional racism is not subtle. Caliman73 May 2018 #44

subtle in that there's very little mention of it in the news. nt ecstatic May 2018 #48

Why would the White news talk about White policies that predominantly benefit White People? Caliman73 May 2018 #57

I don't tolerate the n word being tossed at me, in any capacity. ecstatic May 2018 #63

Should I apologize to you for being a white man? Doodley Jun 2018 #92

So, that is an excuse to carry on using it? Doodley Jun 2018 #90

I disagree. eom guillaumeb May 2018 #29

And there you have it... NurseJackie May 2018 #46

Well said Renew Deal May 2018 #67

Just a wild guess here... Sailor65x1 May 2018 #12

Nailed it. Scurrilous May 2018 #13

No. I worded it that way because I said I won't use the term ecstatic May 2018 #16

Only wipipo find it offensive. A word that didn't even show up here till a month or so ago... marble falls May 2018 #18

I'm not white or wipipo. I think it's a divisive term. ecstatic May 2018 #19

What was the point in starting another flame war about it then? nt gollygee May 2018 #21

What's divisive about it? EffieBlack May 2018 #25

Its aimed at people of a certain race, for a start. procon May 2018 #39

That's not a definition of divisive. EffieBlack May 2018 #40

Sorry, but you don't get to redefine my point of view or procon May 2018 #54

No one is "redefining your point of view." EffieBlack May 2018 #58

You've been flogging this word for days and vilifying every opposing view. procon May 2018 #69

No one has given an actual definition of it. EffieBlack May 2018 #71

What's the payoff then? procon May 2018 #83

It's divisive if it causes a disruption or distraction ecstatic May 2018 #42

Disruption of what? Distraction from what? EffieBlack May 2018 #62

Thank you for standing up for wypipo in our struggle to escape the bigotry aimed at wypipo... marble falls May 2018 #26

Awesome! Caliman73 May 2018 #50

I don't understand why so many of the posts about it are by people who hate the word gollygee May 2018 #14

My first and last time discussing the issue will be in this thread. ecstatic May 2018 #43

No flaming here estatic Kilgore May 2018 #15

It won't offend anyone...but according to some... TCJ70 May 2018 #20

And my response is.... Kilgore May 2018 #27

There's no lofty goal when racial slurs are used to create division. procon May 2018 #28

This topic really reeks of white fragility. kwassa May 2018 #31

Why does a serious conversation about race require using a race as an insult? TCJ70 May 2018 #38

We are not having a serious conversation about race. kwassa May 2018 #41

I don't even know what to call this thought process... TCJ70 May 2018 #49

It's called white fragility. kwassa May 2018 #51

I'm actually not insulted. I'm just not a fan of race based insults. N/t TCJ70 May 2018 #53

It is not for you to tell a whole race of people whether or not they should be insulted, is it? Doodley Jun 2018 #93

I only worry if you're insulted, Doodley. kwassa Jun 2018 #103

Do you want white people to discuss it at all? treestar May 2018 #61

When those that are not the target insist they are being attacked ... kwassa May 2018 #65

How does "targeting" people advance racial equality? procon May 2018 #86

What's with the asterisks? nini May 2018 #32

Yup nt gollygee May 2018 #36

Having seen segregated schools, bathrooms, etc., job adsthat say "No ****** need apply," and worse, Hoyt May 2018 #34

So that makes it alright? Mild racism is okay? Doodley Jun 2018 #94

It makes it a non-issue for me. Sorry you are offended. Blacks calling whites Wypipo ain't Hoyt Jun 2018 #101

I think white people want to own "Wypipo" and regulate it, and pet it, and call it George. nt fleabiscuit May 2018 #55

Who are you to determine what "white people want?" Doodley Jun 2018 #95

Who are you to determine whos allowed to determine what white people want? quakerboy Jun 2018 #102

Obviously I'm the supreme white people Goa'uld. fleabiscuit Jun 2018 #117

The folks who use that term know it is divisive. That's why they use it. wasupaloopa May 2018 #56

What is wrong with divisive? It is a cardinal sin? kwassa May 2018 #68

Well said, and shame on those who use race-based derogatory language. Doodley Jun 2018 #96

It doesn't surprise me that there are a LOT of Wypipo's. fleabiscuit May 2018 #59

There are also non-white people offended by that term. fescuerescue May 2018 #64

Nice assertion. Proof? kwassa May 2018 #66

Well I'm not writing a college essay fescuerescue May 2018 #70

I don't know any living human being that cares about the word "wypipo" kwassa May 2018 #72

So you want to value my opinion fescuerescue May 2018 #77

You just said that there are lots of non-white people who don't like the term EffieBlack May 2018 #78

I assure you fescuerescue May 2018 #81

To continue this circular conversation further ... kwassa Jun 2018 #104

I've heard another word described exactly the same way fescuerescue Jun 2018 #110

No, I don't. kwassa Jun 2018 #112

honestly I don't think it would help fescuerescue Jun 2018 #114

You are just stuck in your false analogy. kwassa Jun 2018 #115

not really fescuerescue Jun 2018 #116

There was a poll gollygee May 2018 #74

I guess I'm not unique then fescuerescue May 2018 #76

Interesting. nt ecstatic May 2018 #79

Well said. You are right in saying it is racist. Doodley Jun 2018 #97

Fair enough. ecstatic Jun 2018 #100

As a principle, I think race-based characterizations are bad. X_Digger May 2018 #82

The term gives people a sense of superiority. nt LexVegas May 2018 #85

Spot on. Tipperary Jun 2018 #99

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #87

Don't they know the Queen's English? Of course she is English! Doodley Jun 2018 #98

It's easier to rationalize to oneself the word rather than the discussion is uncomfortable. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #105

It's an ugly word. Orsino Jun 2018 #106

I find the use of asterisks like this to be dangerous. Even offensive. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #107

Bokononism in our little granfalloon. fleabiscuit Jun 2018 #118