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The Wizard

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21. Can't forget the mercenaries

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 01:38 PM

Aug 2012

And how much of that military budget gets funneled into "campaign funds" or worse, Cayman Islands secret accounts in the name of phantom corporations?
Remember when 19 guys with box cutters brought us to our knees and had the entire nation shuddering in the corner?
Whenever anyone suggests cutting the bloated military budget they get hammered in the media for being weak on the day's bogeyman or ism. GE/NBC is also a major defense contractor. The CIA has people in every major media outlet to ensure the propaganda of fear gets into our unconscious.
Ever since December 7, 1941 the military has been given a blank check.
In the late 40s we were put on a permanent war footing when the Department of War (only fully funded in a declared war) became the Department of Defense, and from that moment we've been on a permanent war footing with military bases all over the world.
Every empire in History has been consumed by an expanded military footprint it was unable to sustain. The road to empire is paved with failed republics that couldn't contain military expansion.

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Fucking Welfare Queens [View all] unhappycamper Aug 2012 OP

I keep bringing up how many of the 1% must actually make more directly from taxpayers than brewens Aug 2012 #1

it seems like the upper middle class pays the taxes and the top 1% collects them. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #18

The average itemized deductions for those with income $200k or more is $64k. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #45

Hasn't that almost always been the case with the ruling class. They just didn't used to brewens Aug 2012 #58

Which parts of that represent welfare? Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 #2

Food and Agriculture paradox Aug 2012 #3

That's what I thought. Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 #5

This is DISCRETIONARY spending, Social Security, Welfare, Food stamps etc are NOT included happyslug Aug 2012 #77

. rocktivity Aug 2012 #4

Nice! CrispyQ Aug 2012 #102

The MIC death grip on this country continues unabated. marmar Aug 2012 #6

My sentiment exactly. 99Forever Aug 2012 #17

A 5% cut in military spending. That's it? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #7

Corporate welfare still exist and cost more than the welfare queens. Thinkingabout Aug 2012 #8

Excellent well thought out Smilo Aug 2012 #9

My husband saw Contractor Fraud Waste and Abuse in Iraq BigTime! SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #10

War mongering for corporate welfare, USA, USA... xtraxritical Aug 2012 #11

Yes, I feel it will. I think Obama's steps have been calculated, SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #15

I think pretty much the same. In a second term, fighting climate change must... Amonester Aug 2012 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author rasputin1952 Aug 2012 #12

Can't forget the mercenaries The Wizard Aug 2012 #21

Things must have changed JonLP24 Aug 2012 #68

This was '09 and only one example SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #80

That sounds about right JonLP24 Aug 2012 #85

It's all good, bottom line is that they're wasting money over there SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #112

...and there's all the HLS and other covert op costs which are covered in secrecy. L0oniX Aug 2012 #13

It's digusting and there is no end in sight. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #14

At least they do something for their handout crimson77 Aug 2012 #19

Sounds like typical guys who don't know how to cook. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #22

Not to change the subject crimson77 Aug 2012 #23

Tell me about it... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #24

Ragout of duck legs and Shrimp Remoulde are my specialities. crimson77 Aug 2012 #28

I'm more of the "pizza casserole" type Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #38

The hardest thing for me, is finding all my ingredients at one store. crimson77 Aug 2012 #41

I have access to just about ANYTHING within three miles. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #48

Only in republican world does B Calm Aug 2012 #27

Take all subsidies away, and deductions as well. crimson77 Aug 2012 #30

We do agree. B Calm Aug 2012 #34

Did you look at the chart? What % of the national budget goes to the poor? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #32

I was born in a Marine Corps family, on a Marine Corps base. crimson77 Aug 2012 #33

Well, there's certainly been enough reporting on the egregious and massive corruption since sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #40

I am overly protective the military, for a variety of reasons. crimson77 Aug 2012 #43

Military Contractors, Halliburton, Bectel et al are not 'the military'. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #52

But Northrup Gruman,Boeing, and Hughes are. I think they do great work. crimson77 Aug 2012 #53

You never answered my question, 'what % of the National Budget goes to the poor'? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #90

Do you know the answer, I'm to tired to look. crimson77 Aug 2012 #96

It's not hard at all. It's quite easy as a matter of fact. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #113

I am not uncomfortable with those ratio's crimson77 Aug 2012 #114

Welfare, Food Stamps and Social Security are under "NON-Discretionary" spending. happyslug Aug 2012 #79

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I am more opposed to the 2 stoner guys part. crimson77 Aug 2012 #51

Do you have any idea how much those "perfectly capable men" (a judgment you leap to with Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #56

I am not conservative, I have an opinion that I wish more people would share. crimson77 Aug 2012 #59

Reading your post and replies leaves only one possible conclusion. Yes, you are a conservative. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #65

What's flawed about it? crimson77 Aug 2012 #70

The waiver is about granting states more flexibility - a typically RW position progree Aug 2012 #73

Don't get me started on SSDI crimson77 Aug 2012 #74

Ask the 29 RepubliCON governors including Mitt Robme why they wanted the waiver. I don't know. progree Aug 2012 #86

The governors are assholes, for many diffrent reasons crimson77 Aug 2012 #97

I think the RWers are pulling your leg - they are great at telling half truths and manufacturing progree Aug 2012 #108

What percentage do you think that actually is? crimson77 Aug 2012 #111

The RWers are pulling your leg. progree Aug 2012 #119

I don't care about their reasoning. crimson77 Aug 2012 #121

yOU ARE BEING FED RW NONSENSE. How is your research going? progree Aug 2012 #123

I believe that the Republican governors are assholes. crimson77 Aug 2012 #124

"But your right, let's go back to the halcyon day's of the 80's" - cut the crap progree Aug 2012 #130

How many people do you know personally that you believe is "taking advantage" of the system? JaneyVee Aug 2012 #88

In my Situation crimson77 Aug 2012 #95

Where on earth do you live where all these 'undeserving poor' are managing to get all these sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #89

section 8 housing, go sometime it will be illuminating. crimson77 Aug 2012 #92

Your laughing, I'll prove it to you. crimson77 Aug 2012 #93

i hate to tell you but those places won't take the case unless they know they can win. ejpoeta Aug 2012 #103

When I say my friend, crimson77 Aug 2012 #109

So you know one person who in your opinion is scamming the system for what is, actually a pittance sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #120

I'll give you facts crimson77 Aug 2012 #122

You still haven't commented on the Welfare Queens who are getting trillions of dollars sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #125

If people are guilty of frauding the goverment over military spending crimson77 Aug 2012 #128

You know how hard it is to get approved for SSDI? JonLP24 Aug 2012 #104

More generalizations about the working class poor. Keep going, I'm enjoying your posts, they sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #87

I don't even know where to start... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #131

From the list, it sounds like they might not have a stove. knitter4democracy Aug 2012 #62

Many working poor qualify for food stamps. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #101

How do you know they are perfectly capable? CrispyQ Aug 2012 #105

Would you spend $50,000,000.00 for an alarm system to protect a 73 Ford Pinto? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #20

Disagree crimson77 Aug 2012 #25

"This country is and will continue to be the greatest country in the history of civilization." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #29

My nana's canasta team could take them over, I meant of the superpowers. crimson77 Aug 2012 #31

No, actually my response was directed at the "civilization" part. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #42

Top of the morning to you, good sir. crimson77 Aug 2012 #44

In what specific context? LanternWaste Aug 2012 #110

I know where you are going to go with this. crimson77 Aug 2012 #118

Your retirement savings didn't disappear. They were redistributed. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #26

The out-of-control MIC, of which Ike warned us, and a chillingly regressive tax scheme, perpetrated indepat Aug 2012 #35

I always say it and I always get shit for it, but here it goes again thelordofhell Aug 2012 #36

There is no military budget. Do you mean Dept of Defense? Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #37

k&r Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #39

Hubby retired from the Navy revolution breeze Aug 2012 #46

And that doesn't even take into account the "Black Budget" 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #49

The "Black Budget" is included, it is buried in the Defense Budget somewhere. happyslug Aug 2012 #82

What about the $2.3 Trillion that Donald Rumsfeld said was missing? 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #94

Could be, but the 2.3 Trillion is one of many years if not decades. happyslug Aug 2012 #115

my brother in law died before he could get his disability payments madrchsod Aug 2012 #50

One part of the puzzle that you are leaving unmentioned is truedelphi Aug 2012 #54

Great post dreamnightwind Aug 2012 #71

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #55

Go away. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #57

+1 blkmusclmachine Aug 2012 #60

And when people suggest cutting military spending, the Teabaggers throw a shit fit! Crowman1979 Aug 2012 #61

Kick. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #63

Funny how that works,, Cryptoad Aug 2012 #64

Nice to see you again unhappy JonLP24 Aug 2012 #66

''Money trumps peace.'' Octafish Aug 2012 #67

We spent $80 Billion over 10 years to re-build Afghanistan Electric grid and schools.... lib2DaBone Aug 2012 #69

We the people don't get crap from that military spending magic59 Aug 2012 #72

THANK YOU... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #75

One point that gets missed DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #76

What the bullies of the world spend the most on ... MIC ... and corporate welfare. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #78

Well done. HCE SuiGeneris Aug 2012 #81

I have to disagree, but excluding non-discretionary spending, this chart is missing half the budget. happyslug Aug 2012 #83

57% to send them to A'stan 5% to fix them when they return SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #84

What's really disgusting is to think... tex-wyo-dem Aug 2012 #91

Indeed +1. The numbers are right there, from independent NGO's to the U.N. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #98

Yeah libodem Aug 2012 #99

We used to call these people "war profiteers", and when we caught them they got hung for treason. baldguy Aug 2012 #100

re:Fucking Welfare Queens,dont get me started on ssdi allan01 Aug 2012 #106

Senators and Congressman Madmiddle Aug 2012 #107

K and R nt. thanks for posting Stuart G Aug 2012 #116

We spend more on defense than the next 50 countries combined. Initech Aug 2012 #117

And they tell us, we are still not safe. I would call that an historically expensive, spectacular sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #127

Yup - it's a classic false sense of security. That's what the MIC offers. Initech Aug 2012 #129

But these Queens have such huge teats cbrer Aug 2012 #126