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RZM

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9. Not really

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:34 AM

Aug 2012

Toby Keith plays the cheesy radio format country. Willie Nelson does the real deal. Like many people I don't much like modern country, but I love the old stuff. BTW, Keith has said he voted for Clinton both times, though he also voted for Bush both times too. So he seems to be the latest version of what used to be called a Reagan Democrat.

That analogy doesn't work because the styles are quite different. But I'd bet if you changed the lyrics of the dipshit shooter's band they could pass for a crappy local hardcore band. As a bonus, you could even change them to Jesus-loving lyrics and they could pass for a Christian hardcore band.

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Let's discuss the difference between punk rock and hate music. [View all] stevedeshazer Aug 2012 OP

As you know, punks have always been big liberals RZM Aug 2012 #1

More of a mixture.... physioex Aug 2012 #2

That's true as well RZM Aug 2012 #3

Some are, some aren't. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #34

I agree Mosby Aug 2012 #61

Van Halen is also the ONLY band in history Ken Burch Aug 2012 #64

Punk Rock was co-opted by RW hate groups, it's origins are Left-wing working class, JaneyVee Aug 2012 #62

SOME of punk was co-opted. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #65

Great point. JaneyVee Aug 2012 #69

There is supposed to be an inherent honesty in punk music JenniferJuniper Aug 2012 #4

Unforutnately, I think they are honest RZM Aug 2012 #13

Few things are more sad than someone thoughtfully and rationally arriving at the wrong conclusion arcane1 Aug 2012 #17

Indeed RZM Aug 2012 #19

I'm referring to universal truths JenniferJuniper Aug 2012 #18

It's funny you mention unviversal truths RZM Aug 2012 #21

I guess. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #5

Not really RZM Aug 2012 #9

No need to change lyrics. If they're a crappy local hardcore band you can't decipher them anyway arcane1 Aug 2012 #11

LOL. Speaking of recipes, I can't help but post this (love the song, BTW) RZM Aug 2012 #14

This reminds me of AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #22

I have to go with 'Moskau,' which is probably my favorite Rammstein song RZM Aug 2012 #24

They are fun to watch, I have to admit AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #28

It's really bad metal. Lint Head Aug 2012 #6

Bad metal is Ratt. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #8

Ok then... It's metal played by people who can't play. opiate69 Aug 2012 #12

Exactly. Lint Head Aug 2012 #15

Pat yourself on the back, condescender. I am the same and have played for 46 years. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #20

Well then.... opiate69 Aug 2012 #23

No. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #26

But...but...but....he's a trained professional! Genuflect! kurtzapril4 Aug 2012 #29

Only in music.... opiate69 Aug 2012 #33

Hmm.. Dire Straits had a song about mediocrity in art... Fumesucker Aug 2012 #45

Are you a member of local AFM 257? I'm proud AFLCIO Union member. Lint Head Aug 2012 #42

well, you see.... opiate69 Aug 2012 #52

Thanks. Lint Head Aug 2012 #54

As a musician who at one time was clearly a "metal-head", I feel your pain arcane1 Aug 2012 #7

The former would be the best description. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #10

I was just listening to this, and I don't have an inclination to get a gun. Gregorian Aug 2012 #16

I'm not exactly doing "punk rock" now... GReedDiamond Aug 2012 #25

Respect. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #27

Thanks, I try...nt GReedDiamond Aug 2012 #30

New Wave Theater!!!! Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #44

Peter Ivers was great! GReedDiamond Aug 2012 #46

how is this being blamed on punk? seanpencil Aug 2012 #31

I like what you're saying. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #32

The "technical term" is Hate Rock. nt ErikJ Aug 2012 #35

Hate has no musical genre. rocktivity Aug 2012 #36

Nazis stoled the skinhead, name, look and dress UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #37

"Skinhead" in the UK is something completely different from US skinheads. In the UK they call our Erose999 Aug 2012 #60

Oi music Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #78

People blame guns, music, religion, etc The Straight Story Aug 2012 #38

Nazi Skinheads were a creepy sideshow to the LA punk scene Romnopoly Aug 2012 #39

And I always noticed Nevernose Aug 2012 #43

Not just the early �80s...they're still around. a la izquierda Aug 2012 #82

My brother was into punk Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #40

Sorry but... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #41

Punk includes racist elements, just as humans include racist elements. yardwork Aug 2012 #47

I think part of the misunderstanding comes from the provincialism of the UK music press. Romulox Aug 2012 #50

Mick Jones of the Clash who is Jewish JenniferJuniper Aug 2012 #51

Don`t forget also.... opiate69 Aug 2012 #53

Johnny Ramone was a Republican and Raygun and Dubya supporter JenniferJuniper Aug 2012 #55

never meant to imply any Nazi tie... opiate69 Aug 2012 #57

Punk was/is essentially left wing but there are always gonna be a few rebels... JenniferJuniper Aug 2012 #58

Always saw it as more Anarchist, opiate69 Aug 2012 #59

As Triumph the Insult Comic Dog said . . . RZM Aug 2012 #63

Point taken. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #66

Still my music of choice...albeit old school. as they say... Tikki Aug 2012 #48

Henry Rollins fronted Black Flag obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #49

Our band opened for Black Flag. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #67

Very cool! obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #68

We played with Black Flag, actually, we booked em... GReedDiamond Aug 2012 #70

My band was The Stiphnoyds, from Portland. stevedeshazer Aug 2012 #73

Both of those clips are what real punk is all about... GReedDiamond Aug 2012 #76

RIP Steve grasswire Aug 2012 #80

Like I said in the thread about Steve's passing... GReedDiamond Aug 2012 #81

There's a lot of truly hateful bands in underground music. Initech Aug 2012 #56

Easy. flvegan Aug 2012 #71

I like the punk movement a bit more than the music, in general. Zorra Aug 2012 #72

The only obnoxious trait I've encountered in actual punks is a tendency for snide hippie-bashing. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #74

Bet it totally Cramps their style when you do that. nt Zorra Aug 2012 #75

Yah Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #79

I thought "hate music" had something to do with disco jberryhill Aug 2012 #77