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moriah

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109. Drop dead, commit a crime, potentially dodge NY taxes by falsely declaring Virginia residence...

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:39 AM

Jul 2018

... or potentially commit election fraud by accepting a new nomination in an election he has no intention of running in?

After Lie-berman saying his shit, if I were Crowley I'd be talking with an attorney about the most legal way he can do it, but giving Crowley attention at all is potentially going to divide the electorate. That's why my response to the suggestion people poll on whether they'd vote for Crowley would just be putting his name in front of more voters.

There should be a way for a nominated candidate to turn down the nomination if all agree without these complicated maneuvers. Remember AOC herself was able to decline the Reform Party nomination she received, but only because she was a write-in.

Otherwise, the best strategy for AOC is IMHO to let Crowley's name be forgotten in this election.

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Crowley could fairly easily beat Ocasio-Cortez in the general election [View all] Renew Deal Jul 2018 OP

many people just vote party so whoever is the dem nominee JI7 Jul 2018 #1

:) True. Another advantage is that Crowley is not running. Hortensis Jul 2018 #42

This may be an exception, I am guessing that it will be. Blue_true Jul 2018 #45

That would only put him in the public spotlight as a "viable candidate" more. moriah Jul 2018 #2

Ocasio-Cortez' recent behavior may change his mind for him. Blue_true Jul 2018 #47

Should have absolutely nothing to do with it. She won the primary fair and square. moriah Jul 2018 #65

We've been crying about Dems coming out to vote in EVERY election since 2016... KCDebbie Jul 2018 #3

I think voters in New York were confused. This year there are two primaries (not sure if.... George II Jul 2018 #147

Any chance a Republican could win in a 3way race? mwooldri Jul 2018 #4

No oberliner Jul 2018 #15

Are you sure about that exboyfil Jul 2018 #26

In 2016, Crowley got 147,587 votes. Renew Deal Jul 2018 #71

No. It will come down to Cortez or Crowley if he changes his mind. Blue_true Jul 2018 #48

Almost no chance. Renew Deal Jul 2018 #70

Democrats outnumber republicans 6-1, so even if the Democratic votes are split 50/50..... George II Jul 2018 #148

Working Families voters are usually more Progressive and aware than casual voters. Power 2 the People Jul 2018 #5

But democrats will likely fill out the Working Party line. Blue_true Jul 2018 #49

Socialists Will Need to Be 10 Times Smarter Than Republicans to Get Taken Seriously in Washington womanofthehills Jul 2018 #136

That's not really how things work Renew Deal Jul 2018 #75

Now we're in favor of 3rd party candidates? shanny Jul 2018 #6

Hahahahahahaha....nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #9

"Any Dem, anywhere" sure went out the window pretty quick. Iggo Jul 2018 #25

Do point to where any poster said they would not vote for the Democratic candidate. Squinch Jul 2018 #30

Do point to where I said that. Iggo Jul 2018 #41

When you said that "any Dem anywhere" has gone out the window. Squinch Jul 2018 #114

Again you with this canard. Show where anyone supported a third Squinch Jul 2018 #28

Crowley is a Democrat. I've heard voters should R B Garr Jul 2018 #38

Crowley lost the Dem primary and his name will appear on the ballot for The Working Families Party. liberalnarb Jul 2018 #44

But he is a proven democrat. Blue_true Jul 2018 #52

So you are promoting his third party run against the Democratic nominee? Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #124

Crowley is a democrat today and will be one after the election. Blue_true Jul 2018 #129

They just don't like the woman Bettie Jul 2018 #134

It is a familiar name. He could win without campaigning...all this running to other states that Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #87

I still really like her but I do think all the state jumping is pre mature since liberalnarb Jul 2018 #94

I just don't like OR...and I fear we could lose the Delaware seat. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #132

This is an active strategy of Sanders, so it shouldn't be such a huge R B Garr Jul 2018 #123

And again you tell an outright lie about Bernie Jim Lane Jul 2018 #144

And again you tell an outright lie to fabricate someone lying. R B Garr Jul 2018 #146

He is a democrat. He wins as WFP, takes the seat and change back to Dem. Blue_true Jul 2018 #51

Probably the most significant imapct is that he is a vote for Pelosi Renew Deal Jul 2018 #77

I don't like the OR connection, but I still support the Democrat. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #91

No. Has nothing to do with that. Renew Deal Jul 2018 #76

Or he could split the Democratic vote and get Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #7

That is not a far more likely scenario oberliner Jul 2018 #14

Maybe so but you split the D votes 32% and 32% and suddenly 33% wins Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #31

In the last General, the conservative got around 1600 votes. Blue_true Jul 2018 #56

Jeff Sessions won his last race with 97% of the vote and now we hold it Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #85

A republican has a hard time breaking 20% in this district. Renew Deal Jul 2018 #79

Democrats couldn't break 5% against Jeff Sessions and now we have the seat Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #90

The last time Sessions ran against a Democrat, the Democrat got 36.5% Renew Deal Jul 2018 #92

Jeff Sessions had no actual opposition in his last race RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #142

There is no scenario that will result in a Republican winning this seat oberliner Jul 2018 #138

So are you supporting a third party candidate Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #120

Huh? oberliner Jul 2018 #139

Unlikely. It would come down to Ocasio-Cortez or Crowley. Blue_true Jul 2018 #54

Almost impossible in this district Renew Deal Jul 2018 #78

So are you supporting his third party run Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #121

No Renew Deal Jul 2018 #122

So you support the Democratic Party nominee? Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #125

Of course Renew Deal Jul 2018 #133

The WFP needs to take Crowley off the ballot... SidDithers Jul 2018 #8

They can't oberliner Jul 2018 #11

They could declare he is a resident of Virginia. joshcryer Jul 2018 #21

No, they can't oberliner Jul 2018 #23

I know that. joshcryer Jul 2018 #24

By doing that aren't you publicly accusing him of fraud? exboyfil Jul 2018 #27

How am I doing that? joshcryer Jul 2018 #34

Advocating dishonest activity is not the best way to go Renew Deal Jul 2018 #81

I'm not advocating anything. joshcryer Jul 2018 #112

I agree Renew Deal Jul 2018 #113

Almost every member of congress takes a residence in the DC area DFW Jul 2018 #50

Oh my goodness, I'm not agreeing with that rhetoric. joshcryer Jul 2018 #58

Only the candidate has that power. former9thward Jul 2018 #61

So you're saying if he moved to France... joshcryer Jul 2018 #69

The party (or the election board) would then have standing under the election rules former9thward Jul 2018 #73

That would be dishonest Renew Deal Jul 2018 #80

She won the primary. We need to unite behind EVERY one of our candidates. Squinch Jul 2018 #10

How is she making it difficult to support her? oberliner Jul 2018 #12

If I didn't know better I would think you were trying to gin Squinch Jul 2018 #16

+ JI7 Jul 2018 #18

+1000 stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #135

Supporting primary challengers against reliable Democrats Renew Deal Jul 2018 #83

She's not melman Jul 2018 #108

Yes, supporting safe seat Democrats is an "agenda" R B Garr Jul 2018 #111

Do the WFP have to pay to put Crowley on the ballot, and surely there is something wrong with doing OnDoutside Jul 2018 #13

The WFP have endorsed Ocasio Cortez. They can't do anything about Crowley appearing Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #33

But it was the WFP who put Crowley's name forward, wasn't it ? If so, I don't understand how it OnDoutside Jul 2018 #53

It was before Ocasio Ortiz won the Dem Primary. Now the WFP wants to put her name Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #62

I'm sorry but I still don't get it ! I don't understand how they were ALLOWED to put his name on the OnDoutside Jul 2018 #72

He was endorsed by WFP before Ocasio Cortez won the Dem Primary. Everyone thought Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #74

It's the "WFP wants to remove his name on the ballot" that is my question. Not to worry, maybe OnDoutside Jul 2018 #82

Yes the WFP wants his name removed. They can't do it until he agrees to vacate Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #98

I get all the rest of it, but who the hell are WFP to put his name on the ballot without his OnDoutside Jul 2018 #99

Oh God. They didn't. He was running in the Primary. He accepted their endorsement. Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #102

WFP relies on "fusion voting". moriah Jul 2018 #105

Petition signatures Renew Deal Jul 2018 #89

I think this is the best option Renew Deal Jul 2018 #86

All you need is petition signatures Renew Deal Jul 2018 #84

I think this is why Crowley isn't bending over backwards to get off the ballot. joshcryer Jul 2018 #17

I'm not a US citizen, but please, for the love of god. Hold your nose and vote for the Dem. Ezior Jul 2018 #19

We're OK in this district Renew Deal Jul 2018 #93

Oh my god, apparently Joe Lieberman is advocating Crowley: joshcryer Jul 2018 #20

because of AOC's position and history of comments on Israel JI7 Jul 2018 #22

As are a whole lot of people in this thread. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #126

crowley is not our nominee and doesn't deserve any further discussion in DU beachbum bob Jul 2018 #29

He might be a nice candidate for something in the future, but Squinch Jul 2018 #40

We need to be wary of adopting a double standard DFW Jul 2018 #43

Ouch ! OnDoutside Jul 2018 #55

You make a good point. Blue_true Jul 2018 #57

How is he still on the ballot if she won? sarah FAILIN Jul 2018 #32

There's a third party, the Working Family Party, that is on the ballot. joshcryer Jul 2018 #35

He's on the ballot as a third party candidate Bettie Jul 2018 #36

I just read that it's a New York thing.... LeftInTX Jul 2018 #37

This is basically the answer Renew Deal Jul 2018 #46

He's on the ballot under the Working Families Party. Years ago... George II Jul 2018 #96

Another possibility is that Ocasio-Cortez gets in a quarrel with Democratic party leaders ucrdem Jul 2018 #39

I agree. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #59

Ocasio-Cortez won a primary in which very few Dems voted... KCDebbie Jul 2018 #63

Yes and so did Crowley it seems. ucrdem Jul 2018 #67

"only a primary in which it seems that mostly her supporters showed up" Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #127

I meant that she won a primary with a very low KCDebbie Jul 2018 #137

Primaries almost always have very low turnouts. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #140

... KCDebbie Jul 2018 #143

There should be a sore loser law (NJ does) that bars people from Le Gaucher Jul 2018 #60

Crowley won the WPP primary. former9thward Jul 2018 #64

It would take a revamp of NY election laws Renew Deal Jul 2018 #95

Crowley isn't running. He conceded and endorsed AOC on primary night. This is WFP screw-up emulatorloo Jul 2018 #104

Thought we were not supposed to refight primary results dembotoz Jul 2018 #66

No one here is fighting Renew Deal Jul 2018 #97

". . .why Crowley can win by accident. . ." DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #115

What ever the cause.. she won the primary dembotoz Jul 2018 #116

There's still the general election to win in November. DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #117

Due diligence is important dembotoz Jul 2018 #118

Exactly. Voters can 'call an audible radius777 Jul 2018 #130

Hopefully, all Democrats H2O Man Jul 2018 #68

WFP would be disinclined to remove a candidate unless compelled to ucrdem Jul 2018 #88

They tried and asked Crowley to do what is needed to get off the ballot. vi5 Jul 2018 #101

Drop dead, commit a crime, potentially dodge NY taxes by falsely declaring Virginia residence... moriah Jul 2018 #109

What did Lieberman say? vi5 Jul 2018 #110

Uh, after he truly left the Party, most people didn't want him to win. moriah Jul 2018 #119

No, he couldn't budkin Jul 2018 #100

Stupidity BlueDog22 Jul 2018 #103

I'm sure that the DCCC will be helping Ocasio-Cortez win... vi5 Jul 2018 #106

Crowley is a Democrat JI7 Jul 2018 #141

Well he wouldnt be a Democrat, clearly Tiggeroshii Jul 2018 #107

He isn't running - he has endorsed the winner of the Democratic primary oberliner Jul 2018 #128

He repeated that he's not running RandySF Jul 2018 #131

That's good reason for Crowley to take his name off the ballot. Jim Lane Jul 2018 #145