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In reply to the discussion: Radosh: Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez are losing the way home [View all]SidDithers
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There is another area that shows how different Harringtons strategy was from that of DSA members today. Harrington would never have gone to Kansas, as Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez have done, to campaign for the most left-wing candidate in districts defined by virtually everyone as center-right. Yet there the socialists were on Friday, campaigning in an evening rally for self-proclaimed Justice Democrat Brent Welder, whom Ocasio-Cortez acknowledges is running the same campaign she did, under the idea, as reporter David Weigel drily explained, that whats good for the Bronx and Queens would be even better for Kansas.
Harrington would, I think, have backed a victory in that six-candidate Democratic primary for the Democrat most likely to capture the center in a race against the existing Congressman, Republican Kevin Yoder, who seems happy watching Democrats fight amongst themselves.
This is a center-right district, he told Weigel, and people from time to time will cross over to vote for a Democrat. When they worry that the Democratic Party is being taken over by folks who describe themselves as democratic socialists, theyre not going to take that risk. As New York Times reporter Sydney Ember pointed out, after covering the rally, many establishment Democrats have bristled at the suggestion that the far-left ideas espoused by her and Mr. Sanders represent the partys position. Moreover, these Democrats fear that the socialist message in districts vastly different than hers will turn off, rather than invigorate, voters.
Harrington would, I think, have backed a victory in that six-candidate Democratic primary for the Democrat most likely to capture the center in a race against the existing Congressman, Republican Kevin Yoder, who seems happy watching Democrats fight amongst themselves.
This is a center-right district, he told Weigel, and people from time to time will cross over to vote for a Democrat. When they worry that the Democratic Party is being taken over by folks who describe themselves as democratic socialists, theyre not going to take that risk. As New York Times reporter Sydney Ember pointed out, after covering the rally, many establishment Democrats have bristled at the suggestion that the far-left ideas espoused by her and Mr. Sanders represent the partys position. Moreover, these Democrats fear that the socialist message in districts vastly different than hers will turn off, rather than invigorate, voters.
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Not in this climate you haven't. In case you haven't noticed, we are in a crisis. ALL of our money
Squinch
Jul 2018
#47
I'm not fighting your candidate, or any other Democrat, so you can stuff that lie
bigtree
Jul 2018
#61
Sorry but I think it's funny that Ocasio-Cortez is talking up women being elected in congress while
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#144
he may have been, at a time when he could get away with claiming he was a leftist
bigtree
Jul 2018
#88
If you want to write seats off, go ahead & ignore the electorate. And fuck divisive termnilogy.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2018
#70
How is pointing out that socialists will not draw GOP voters in a center right state a "smear"?
SunSeeker
Jul 2018
#76
"Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez (...) approach that could help elect repubs" --- I wonder if...
NurseJackie
Jul 2018
#5
As lapucelle pointed out, very close to OC's district there is a rare chance to unseat the
Squinch
Jul 2018
#49
republicans use a lot of statements to stir dissension and division among Democrats
bigtree
Jul 2018
#30
I'm sorry you don't know enough about politics to realize that's protocol
RhodeIslandOne
Jul 2018
#64
Ah, but in this new world "establishment" and "centrist" is all based on who you know, not on
Squinch
Jul 2018
#50
Oh well - if Ronald Radosh tells us what Michael Harrington would think - then it must be right.
Nanjeanne
Jul 2018
#15
If we lose in November, the USA is over. Done. And I would NEVER forgive Bernie,
ecstatic
Jul 2018
#33
even though you have none, 0 evidence that Sanders has negatively impacted the last race or this one
JCanete
Jul 2018
#69
you win if you best fit your district and your voters know something about you,
JCanete
Jul 2018
#100
how could it help to elect repubs? This sounds like more bullshit discouragement of going
JCanete
Jul 2018
#66
Evidently since this article is still here maybe that rule doesn't apply if they are attacking
Quixote1818
Jul 2018
#93
We should not run the risks of turning over leadership of the Progressive movement
bucolic_frolic
Jul 2018
#74
So...the just of the article is that there are different strands of "socialism".
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2018
#91
Well, Davids' agenda is a livable wage, good education and universal health coverage.
SunSeeker
Jul 2018
#116
She does not promote Medicare for All, tuition free college, a $15 minimum wage
oberliner
Jul 2018
#120
She is in the mainstrain of progressives Dems. She is to the left of many red state Dems on guns.
SunSeeker
Jul 2018
#161
So you admit you lied when you said she's "no further left that the most right-leaning Democrats."
SunSeeker
Jul 2018
#163
So Bernie is just doing this "for his chance to represent Democrats in the fall"?! nt
SunSeeker
Jul 2018
#129
Exactly. And those who are not paying as close attention as we do will believe it.
Squinch
Jul 2018
#124