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brooklynite

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1. I haven't heard anyone say "Pence is worse"...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:14 AM
Jul 2018

...but that's not the issue. The reason we SHOULD NOT IMPEACH today is that the Senate won't convict which will effectively "acquit" Trump. Add to which, you'll destroy the trust that voters had in us when they elected us to get things done policy-wise.

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I haven't heard anyone say "Pence is worse"... brooklynite Jul 2018 #1
I've seen it fairly regularly on here NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #10
I agree with Jeff--Pence is/will be worse is a common sentiment on DU. TexasProgresive Jul 2018 #12
I've seen it too, but I seem to see it less often kcr Jul 2018 #39
Yes, I've said it radical noodle Jul 2018 #42
Maybe so but would he sell us out to Putin? TexasProgresive Jul 2018 #57
He would sell out to anyone radical noodle Jul 2018 #61
I hope Democratic candidates avoid any discussion of impeachment. Lonestarblue Jul 2018 #40
My gay friends say it. progressoid Jul 2018 #50
I haven't seen a full moon in four months. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #63
Pence and their party would be next to powerless underpants Jul 2018 #2
I totally agree. I have heard it and I don't understand how people can think that. Squinch Jul 2018 #3
Because Pence is actually a politician. cab67 Jul 2018 #21
Worse for us LGBTQers (and for everybody else in some respects) Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #31
This radical noodle Jul 2018 #46
Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2018 #60
+1 nitpicker Jul 2018 #64
I agree. LuvNewcastle Jul 2018 #71
pence is a woman-hating, dominionist bastard. he only LOOKS semi-sane. niyad Jul 2018 #38
Pence is like the creepy funeral director that steals your grandmother's wedding ring dalton99a Jul 2018 #4
Trump will not be impeached. We need to get off of that horse. EffieBlack Jul 2018 #20
Effie, if things are the same then as they are now RandomAccess Jul 2018 #65
I keep waiting for things to not be the same. cab67 Jul 2018 #70
Pence is cancer; Trump is a gushing trauma wound. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #5
+1. And we must stanch the bleeding ASAP dalton99a Jul 2018 #8
Great analogy! docgee Jul 2018 #11
For Trump, Pence is McDonald's personified. Greybnk48 Jul 2018 #14
There you go! Thats the perfect analogy. Squinch Jul 2018 #23
It's a horrible argument... NCTraveler Jul 2018 #6
If he has less than two years left of this term, does he get to run twice? raging moderate Jul 2018 #7
Yes he does jmowreader Jul 2018 #17
Trump wasn't going to win in 2016. cab67 Jul 2018 #24
Yes. EffieBlack Jul 2018 #19
"so he can run twice in his own name." - that's correct as to the 2-year issue... PoliticAverse Jul 2018 #49
I think Pence realizes this too (i.e., that there will be no loyalty to him, unlike Trump) hlthe2b Jul 2018 #9
I think it's just his nature. Scruffy1 Jul 2018 #41
People who don't want Trump removed for any reason are wrong. mtnsnake Jul 2018 #13
I posted this some time ago. Maybe it is worth repeating. Atticus Jul 2018 #15
I think Pence is more dangerous because he understands the system better MiniMe Jul 2018 #16
Plus the fact that Pence has plenty of DARK Money behind him. luvtheGWN Jul 2018 #22
This is pretty close to my opinion mythology Jul 2018 #25
That Doesn't Work For Me, Myth ProfessorGAC Jul 2018 #34
I think so too Raine Jul 2018 #68
In some ways, Pence IS worse EffieBlack Jul 2018 #18
We should cross that bridge when we come to it JDC Jul 2018 #26
well, pence may save wall street elmac Jul 2018 #27
Don't THINK FOR ONE MOMENT that Pence is not guilty of yuiyoshida Jul 2018 #28
"There is not a cult of personality around Pence ..." dchill Jul 2018 #29
None of that will change things.. Trump Pence.. ITS THE BASE that is the issue. lancelyons Jul 2018 #30
A lot of that base, however, thats attracted to Trump dont always vote jcgoldie Jul 2018 #37
There may be a few of those but more than anything its the FOX news audience that is his base. lancelyons Jul 2018 #62
throwing the orange nazi out of office should be a high priority elmac Jul 2018 #32
I do think Pence is worse keepleft101 Jul 2018 #33
Tell That To Jerry Ford ProfessorGAC Jul 2018 #36
especially if we take the house jcgoldie Jul 2018 #35
they are already getting the supreme court JI7 Jul 2018 #45
agree, i also have a feeling that if Trump goes he will take Pence down JI7 Jul 2018 #43
All this makes Pence a smidgen better. Turbineguy Jul 2018 #44
Pence with a Republican congress is worse Bettie Jul 2018 #47
Yes, Pence is SLIGHTLY better Shoonra Jul 2018 #48
Remember: Pense was very unpopular in Indiana Dorn Jul 2018 #51
I think they're both horrible in their own way but that doesn't mean Trump shouldn't go. Solly Mack Jul 2018 #52
Totally agree. honest.abe Jul 2018 #53
I agree. Pence is awful, but he's a sort of awful that can be managed until he's defeated The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #54
Long past thinking Pence might be worse than trump. He's not good, but he at least has Hoyt Jul 2018 #55
Pence... Mike Nelson Jul 2018 #56
Much damage from Pence would be horrible but reversible (civil and reproductive rights, etc.) Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #58
We need to win back the House. Then Mueller needs bring charges against 45 and Pence on January 3. LonePirate Jul 2018 #59
Choose your poison... Theocrats are worse JCMach1 Jul 2018 #66
Trump is doing the work of the Theocrats. at least with Pence we might get some attention JI7 Jul 2018 #69
If the GOP was smart they would get rid of Trump themselves.... cheezmaka Jul 2018 #67
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