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Hamlette

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33. I sure don't remember it that way. I remember thinking why the hell don't the republicans speak out

Mon Aug 20, 2018, 07:53 PM

Aug 2018

And while Goldwater did go to Nixon and tell him to resign, it was 2 days before the resignation and after the tapes came out. Up to that point, there was no republican support for getting rid of Nixon. While as many as 7 republicans voted in committee to send one of the articles on impeachment to the floor, remember that was on July 27 and 30 1974, more than 2 years after the break in and days before he resigned. We would never get 7 votes now, hell, we probably couldn't get 1 with the evidence we know about

Between the vote and Goldwater's visit to Nixon, the smoking gun tape was released.

Had it not been for that tape, Goldwater would not have gone to Nixon and convinced him to resign. He would have filled out his term, IMHO.

If we've got such a tape, it could be that the GOP would do nothing. Certainly not so quickly. But without the tape, the GOP supported Nixon.

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NoShit.. [View all] pbmus Aug 2018 OP

Yikes!!! LakeArenal Aug 2018 #1

I remember Watergate well! Heartstrings Aug 2018 #2

+100 Duppers Aug 2018 #3

This is exponentially worse than Watergate... ADX Aug 2018 #4

Agreed! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #12

The GOP backed Nixon too, Nixon bashed the press and he had an enemies list. Hamlette Aug 2018 #5

Not so fast . . . Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2018 #15

I agree. The situation is far more dire because of the spineless Republicans. olegramps Aug 2018 #25

THANK YOU FOR PUSHING BACK SO ACCURATELY ON THAT ERRONEOUS POST. brush Aug 2018 #28

I sure don't remember it that way. I remember thinking why the hell don't the republicans speak out Hamlette Aug 2018 #33

You don't remember Howard Baker asking: "What did the president know and when did he know it?" brush Aug 2018 #35

yes, in June 1973. And what came of it? Nothing. For a year. Hamlette Aug 2018 #36

this was a day or two before he resigned and AFTER the smoking gun tape. Hamlette Aug 2018 #34

It's more than just the leadership. tikka Aug 2018 #6

where as back then we had Senator Howard Baker, a man of true honor yellowdogintexas Aug 2018 #18

In a way it is also better because the corruption is in the wide open, not even being hidden... Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #7

I remember Watergate making me both sad and mad. pazzyanne Aug 2018 #8

Watergate was awful but a misdemeanor TNNurse Aug 2018 #9

Absolutely Yes to All of This! DoctorJoJo Aug 2018 #10

Vodkagate. A much greater impairment to American Democracy than was Watergate Marcuse Aug 2018 #11

I was in my 30s and reading the Washington Post every day. Mickju Aug 2018 #13

Yeah, I get it and mostly agree, but Nixon was sneaky corrupt and had been getting away with it Persondem Aug 2018 #14

agree, the roots of all of this go back to Nixon, definitely yellowdogintexas Aug 2018 #19

+1. Nice thoughts. Thank you. nt Persondem Aug 2018 #31

Yes. There's no comparison, the degrees of danger and corruption. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #16

And on and on... pbmus Aug 2018 #17

Absolutely D_Master81 Aug 2018 #20

K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #21

Known this for a Cha Aug 2018 #22

Trump supporters are by far more evil! BlueJac Aug 2018 #23

and back in the 1970s NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #24

It's not only the GOP leadership who are complicit proglib217 Aug 2018 #26

People are forgetting Reagan. Some 28 were convicted and Republicans pardoned many. olegramps Aug 2018 #27

Yes, Iran Contra was an impeachable offense, and Reagan certainly approved it. Nitram Aug 2018 #30

Reagan didn't destroy our alliances, fuck up the environment, attack his AG, LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2018 #32

But the "less competent" bit will be the undoing of Trump. He has boasted of obstruction of justice Nitram Aug 2018 #29