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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 05:50 AM Aug 2018

After the Jacksonville Shooting, We Need to Talk About White Male Rage [View all]

This is how white male supremacy works in America. No matter how many white men go on killing sprees because they didn’t get what they wanted (a woman’s attention, popularity in school, a white America), we never discuss the problem of white male rage. Every white killer is a separate and unique “isolated incident,” disconnected from any larger pattern. This is like declaring every tree in a forest to exist in singular solitude and the forest itself to be invisible. Worse, anyone pointing out the obvious existence of the forest is treated as a heretic by polite society because it’s just rude to ruffle the leaves of all the trees. They’re extremely fragile and cannot handle any kind of criticism. After all, you never know what might set another one of them off on a completely isolated killing spree. They’re just under so much pressure these days!

But that’s the result of creating a society that tells exactly one group, white men, that the universe is theirs to command and control; that everything is theirs for the taking. When white men don’t get what they want, how they want, the way they want it, they lash out in a mindless rage at anyone and everyone they blame for denying them what they feel entitled to. Maybe if we stopped coddling them, they’d stop being so fucking fragile. And then maybe, just maybe, they’d stop killing so many of us in petulant rages when they don’t get their way.

The sooner we start talking about the problem instead of finding every excuse imaginable to avoid discussing white male rage, the better off the world will be.


https://thedailybanter.com/issues/2018/08/27/white-male-rage/

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Toxic masculinity is at the root of so many problems. ariadne0614 Aug 2018 #1
Great article! Dead on. Especially on the Wapo coverage of it. It infuriated me. Squinch Aug 2018 #2
You will enjoy this article also... Soph0571 Aug 2018 #3
Virtually all of these shooters are known to be dangerous by someone... Sancho Aug 2018 #4
Actually there is, and the government as well as his family failed to use it Lee-Lee Aug 2018 #12
I appreciate you explaining that so clearly. Kittycow Aug 2018 #82
I am a white male full of rage HopeAgain Aug 2018 #5
Big time. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #59
You sound like an enlightened ally to me. ariadne0614 Aug 2018 #144
K&R ck4829 Aug 2018 #6
" But that's the result of creating a society... Mister Ed Aug 2018 #7
As we stand on an ecological brink, they still think they are superior & should be in charge. CrispyQ Aug 2018 #90
Yep, and some of the ones who don't get to do the taking can't take it and end up taking it out... brush Aug 2018 #108
Amen WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #8
Hard to actually do I would think n/t el_bryanto Aug 2018 #24
Not hard WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #45
Well now I've never been to Stormfront or 4 Chan el_bryanto Aug 2018 #52
hahaha WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #56
4chan does a LOT more than provide a forum to right wingers Calista241 Aug 2018 #69
OK WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #71
So, i'll cop to being a huge nerd that likes science fiction. Calista241 Aug 2018 #75
"Warhammer 40k lore addiction". Sounds oddly familiar. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #111
Nice username. ;) Calista241 Aug 2018 #139
I'll refrain from memeing further. :P Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #141
Fuck Erebus. Calista241 Aug 2018 #147
Crap. I think he heard you. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #148
Would you advocate the same for non-white persons who display any hint of race based prejudice? Marengo Aug 2018 #42
????? WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #43
You didn't answer the question. Try again. Marengo Aug 2018 #44
Sorry about that I misunderstood WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #48
Was Syed Farook white? Omar Mateen? Aaron Alexis? Seung-Hui Cho? John Allen Muhammad? Marengo Aug 2018 #54
Oh WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #55
You are advocating life imprisonment of individuals with no criminal record based on gender, Marengo Aug 2018 #60
hahaha WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #64
Wow sarisataka Aug 2018 #74
Shocking when the shoe is put on the other foot, isn't it? Squinch Aug 2018 #103
wow WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #104
I get it, the fix is easy sarisataka Aug 2018 #114
hahaha WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #121
Yes that will do for now sarisataka Aug 2018 #123
This conversation has been a gas to follow. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #125
. sarisataka Aug 2018 #128
I think you're bit extreme, hold on there WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #126
You have not been talking about the letter of the law sarisataka Aug 2018 #130
Big data WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #133
Given the choice between a world sarisataka Aug 2018 #135
Fair enough WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #137
When there is Injustice against the demographic sarisataka Aug 2018 #110
I don't understand? WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #120
I'm not surprised you would be confused. Those who promote fascist policies generally are... Marengo Aug 2018 #127
That's not very nice WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #136
You wrote: "As a society, this would be easy. Round them up, jail them and throw away the key" Marengo Aug 2018 #76
Oh WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #91
Reinhard Heydrich will be calling, he thinks you'd be a great fit for his organization. Marengo Aug 2018 #115
Who is that? WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #122
Please tell me you are joking. Marengo Aug 2018 #129
hahaha WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #131
I'm glad sarisataka Aug 2018 #124
It's something I would expect to see on Stormfront, not DU. Marengo Aug 2018 #132
It isn't aginst the law to demonstrate racism/white supremecy wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #70
huh? WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #107
The Jacksonville shooter displayed no political leanings RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #152
Oh WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #156
Because being schizophrenic is not illegal RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #157
True WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #160
There's punishment for mental illness where you are? RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #162
Now you're being facetious.. WestIndianArchie Aug 2018 #164
Silly Rabbit genxlib Aug 2018 #9
White males are often enraged by women, immigrants, minorities, etc. IronLionZion Aug 2018 #10
So you think a guy with a mental illness wouldn't have benefitted from more mental health treatment mythology Aug 2018 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #119
The mental health movement is largely ignored on DU RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #153
People who seek mental health treatment are often bullied for appearing weak IronLionZion Aug 2018 #165
Issue is privilege, not coddling. Need to raise whites and males as equals, not supreme. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #11
It's both, they aren't mutually exclusive and it becomes a feedback loop. PunkinPi Aug 2018 #16
K&R PunkinPi Aug 2018 #13
Where do these men get this message? LittleGirl Aug 2018 #14
It may be hard to see because, as they say, you're soaking in it. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #37
thank you for that. LittleGirl Aug 2018 #50
There are studies of teachers that find boys get many more TIMES Squinch Aug 2018 #84
You know, LittleGirl Aug 2018 #149
Also, look up the Bechdel rule about women's roles in films. Squinch Aug 2018 #87
Ridiculous article. Sanctimonious crap. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #15
This post for the win Watchfoxheadexplodes Aug 2018 #17
Toxic masculinity has dominated pro gaming for years, and they are almost all white Tarc Aug 2018 #20
Post removed Post removed Aug 2018 #21
"crickets"... Fix The Stupid Aug 2018 #36
Those crickets certainly got noisy, eh? LanternWaste Aug 2018 #83
Crickets certainly do give thorough, informative answers these days. Squinch Aug 2018 #88
I trust the crickets over the paid hacks. YMMV n/t. Fix The Stupid Aug 2018 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Aug 2018 #95
I lulzed. Why don't you go ahead and rebut all those crickets. Squinch Aug 2018 #96
This thread is not about that. spicysista Aug 2018 #57
Oppression. Lack of opportunity. A multi-tiered legal system. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #61
Actually, sociologists do identify toxic masculinity as part of a "gang culture" mentality. haele Aug 2018 #66
could be; though likely more complex than that treestar Aug 2018 #86
And yet there have been hundreds of these tournaments RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #151
Your point doesn't override mine, they can both be in play. Tarc Aug 2018 #166
Yeah, well. At least he had access to all the guns and ammo he wanted, right? Paladin Aug 2018 #22
So do Americans of all colors, right ? Trust Buster Aug 2018 #23
Yeah, that's the hallmark of this country's mass murderers, all right: Paladin Aug 2018 #25
I live in Chicago. I had to roll my eyes at the op. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #39
If a black man is stopped by a cop and is found to be carrying, what Squinch Aug 2018 #94
Terribly off topic. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #97
Not really. You said every race has equal access to guns. I say they don't. Squinch Aug 2018 #98
Thank you! LuvNewcastle Aug 2018 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #27
What kind of "fragility" would explain the explosive minority shootings that happen in major cities Trust Buster Aug 2018 #28
Perceived oppression promotes fragility. Real oppression really promotes fragility. Marcuse Aug 2018 #46
So, you are saying that all males believe that they "control and command" the universe ? Trust Buster Aug 2018 #47
Most of us can control and command our selfish instincts most of the time. Marcuse Aug 2018 #63
But, that is true of people in general and not just males. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #65
Yes, but we are discussing the people who strike out and why. Marcuse Aug 2018 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #51
So I can't honestly disagree with an OP that opens up a huge umbrella by suggesting that a Trust Buster Aug 2018 #58
You have a disagreement because you can't see the white male privilege Squinch Aug 2018 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #138
Clearly you do see it. I can understand how some don't, but Squinch Aug 2018 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #145
I'm a woman and I didn't see it at first either. For years. Maybe till my late thirties. Squinch Aug 2018 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #161
That reflection technique is great! Not a technique, but that Bechdel test that I referred to Squinch Aug 2018 #163
Calling Someone RobinA Aug 2018 #146
How many schizophrenic women have gone on shooting sprees? Squinch Aug 2018 #155
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #140
Why, I think we have a very instructive example right in this thread! Squinch Aug 2018 #89
Lol! Funny how you edited that! It was a bit blatant. Squinch Aug 2018 #105
Criminals commit crimes against those closest to them. White criminals as well. brush Aug 2018 #112
I knew this would happen. zanana1 Aug 2018 #29
Courage ? The OP painted with a broad brush with respect to a 24 year old with past mental Trust Buster Aug 2018 #30
I think that was an example of white fragility. nt zanana1 Aug 2018 #32
What was an example of white fragility ? Trust Buster Aug 2018 #33
LOL! Squinch Aug 2018 #159
What is your guess on the percentage of mass killers being white males? It's pretty high. brush Aug 2018 #116
Thank you Calculating Aug 2018 #67
You're right DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #134
What is the source of thie rage? Lonestarblue Aug 2018 #18
This kid was mentally ill. cate94 Aug 2018 #19
Of course. So were the umpteen other white males who shot up crowds. Squinch Aug 2018 #99
No, really read his history. cate94 Aug 2018 #117
Lots of anger, lots of rage. PatrickforO Aug 2018 #31
Capitalism has turned our economy into a zero sum game Calculating Aug 2018 #73
Is it "Fortnight" or something that is recruiting alt-righters? Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #53
In this case yes. But, the alt-right is using war games online to inculcate Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Aug 2018 #143
Careful. As many people play Fortnite as voted in 2016. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #62
I'm not sure if that was the game. I read where some alt-right messiah has Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #79
I mean, I can give my gaming anecdotes, but that's far from gospel truth, of course. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #101
Thanks. i try to click on as few as possible on the internet. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #106
I can't say I blame you. Links are always suspect. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #109
Thanks for boiling that down. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #113
As with all things, it's more nuanced than what I posted, but it's almost impossible to sum up. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2018 #118
Worth Thinking About Roy Rolling Aug 2018 #35
yep....if people carry guns people will use them yes small percentage dembotoz Aug 2018 #68
Not that different than the rage from the Oval Office. gordianot Aug 2018 #38
Obviously our laws are ineffective. Goodheart Aug 2018 #41
I would ignore most of the responces to this thread. They are usually not reasoned or lawful. wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #72
... Major Nikon Aug 2018 #49
Let's be honest: who amongst us hasn't sometimes wanted to go on a shooting spree struggle4progress Aug 2018 #77
I'm going on record with a big NOT ME. on this one. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #81
Super Predators are they? jalan48 Aug 2018 #80
No surprise the violent, young, white male is again described as "troubled." LanternWaste Aug 2018 #85
There is no ONE thing that we should be talking about. Caliman73 Aug 2018 #100
Sure do... thanks for posting. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #102
Says some fat guy at 'the daily banter'. Bonx Aug 2018 #158
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