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RockRaven

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20. Sorry, but your post seems to be based on the premise that this woman was just misinformed...
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 10:58 PM
Aug 2018

But the issue is not whether or not Obama was an Arab -- or a Muslim -- or whether she believed he was either of those things, or whether she had been lied to by someone about either of those things.

The thing people are criticizing about her is that she takes this bad data and interprets it through a bigoted thought process. The idea that him being Arab (or Muslim) is something to be concerned about categorically is what bothers people. It's the bigotry, not the misinformation, which causes offense. Even if she never had heard this "incorrect news" about Obama, her reaction to some similar "correct news" about some other person would have resulted in the same reaction in her, no? That reaction is the problem. That's what everyone is bothered by. Does anyone really expect her to learn/grow/change/etc? Of course not. But that doesn't mean we can't point to that reaction/behavior as something which is not good and should not be passed on to new generations.


If I'm going to think someone who appeared in that video clip is being criticized too harshly, I'd be more likely to choose McCain. The first few seconds of his sound-bite "he's not A, he's B" can be portrayed as saying that A's cannot be B's. I think it's fair to say it sure seems that way when viewed only up to that point; but listening to the clip in full makes it seem to me that he's just trying to shut this lady's misinformation and bigoted premise down, and keep the debate/contrast on the level of policy choices. Could he have done it better? Certainly.

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And? HipChick Aug 2018 #1
+1000 nt jrthin Aug 2018 #22
She didn't seem totally "there" on the video clip and heavens, that was more than 10 years ago. hlthe2b Aug 2018 #2
I hope so too. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #4
What things? That good and gentle people can also be ignorant or racist? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #3
She was ignorant. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #5
I'm still not getting your point; your post has the air of "gotcha" but I can't tell what's getting WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #8
I'm betting she was un/undereducated and thus ignorant and racist, but likely pre-senile as well. hlthe2b Aug 2018 #7
So she believes Muslims are bad? HopeAgain Aug 2018 #6
Actually, she did use the term "Arab" (though undoubtedly meant Muslim)... hlthe2b Aug 2018 #10
It's kinda like the thread about healthcare workers and racist patients. moriah Aug 2018 #12
No, she said he was an Arab. Either way, a bigoted remark. n/t SaveOurDemocracy Aug 2018 #14
maybe the assisted living center should just cut off the press??? Takket Aug 2018 #9
The problem with her statement and McCain's response has been largely ignored. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #11
I really don't think that's what McCain meant. NYC Liberal Aug 2018 #15
He could have added a statement about how the demonizing of Muslims is wrong. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #18
Really good point! Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #17
That always bothered me. madaboutharry Aug 2018 #30
If she believed it she was stupid. That's pretty cut and dried to me. Goodheart Aug 2018 #13
She had bad information, just like all the people that watch Fox News, Listen to Right wing talk tulipsandroses Aug 2018 #16
So it's ok to be racist and dumb if you're a gentle person? Bluepinky Aug 2018 #19
Sorry, but your post seems to be based on the premise that this woman was just misinformed... RockRaven Aug 2018 #20
Well to be fair...McCain and the Repubes had spent months before this clip trying to convince cbdo2007 Aug 2018 #21
although a better thing for her to have said would've been brettdale Aug 2018 #23
I like it. That would have been really cool. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #24
She said it like it was a bad thing because that was what the right wing campaign against Obama OhioBlue Aug 2018 #33
If the living is very "assisted", hopefully they will keep her medical needs above media concerns. moriah Aug 2018 #25
Agreed and I wonder Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #26
Ah yes 2008... D_Master81 Aug 2018 #27
I don't know rpannier Aug 2018 #29
What about thr guy right before her? hibbing Aug 2018 #28
Trump's base is exploding with people who are wired like her. ooky Aug 2018 #31
ignorance is cut and dried Demonaut Aug 2018 #32
I'm not sure how much sympathy I'm supposed to have for a brainless pearl-clutcher Aristus Aug 2018 #34
I'd like to know how she got to the rally and wny she was there. Anyone notice how unkempt Cousin Dupree Aug 2018 #35
This is a question that I had too..and also, how what are they being exposed to at the facility? HipChick Aug 2018 #37
Meanwhile, "Get a brain Morans" guy is a happy Twitter blogger. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2018 #36
Was she in assisted living ten years ago? no_hypocrisy Aug 2018 #38
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