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kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
53. Second chance, yes, third chance, not going to happen.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 06:18 PM
Aug 2018

The thing about compromise is that it is a strategy. I will agree to this concession if you agree to that one. When one party honors the agreement while the other refuses to honor that agreement, this becomes a debit in trust. That is the foundation of all transactions, and the COST of that transaction to the betrayer is higher next time.

The strategy that Democrats typically take is to treat their counterparts across the aisle as if they are initially trustworthy, but to ratchet down that trust with every betrayed vote. That means that they will still concede something, but the value of that concession decreases over time. On the other hand, trust can be built up as well.

The Republicans, on the other hand, will only negotiate from a position of strength, and they regard compromise of any sort as losing face. You see that in their strategies over and over again. It's why they are so hideously bad at governing - they are so afraid of being seen as weak that they can only get legislation through by subverting members of the opposition. The problem with this is that the same trust dynamic that plays at the party level also plays at the representative level. You may get a better deal from the other side, but do that too often and you will be given less trust within the party itself.

I think Democrats will compromise as a matter of course, but the key is really whether the things they have compromised on have value. At this point, they are in the minority, but memories are long.

Someone steals 1/2 million. You aren't a thief. Split the difference and call it a day. rainin Aug 2018 #1
"we" just gave them a bunch of uncontested judgeships. does that count? nt msongs Aug 2018 #2
I am confused by your question. SamKnause Aug 2018 #6
It would be well for them to remember what happened when Obama tried to reach across the aisle. Arkansas Granny Aug 2018 #3
I wished that Obama had not reached across the isle year in and BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #7
Thanks for your input and links. SamKnause Aug 2018 #10
This is what compromise has looked like in recent decades: Garrett78 Aug 2018 #57
Yes, it has looked very much like that. Arkansas Granny Aug 2018 #59
I do not compromise with those who are engineering the destruction of all I hold dear. niyad Aug 2018 #4
That is how I feel. SamKnause Aug 2018 #14
Great OP BeyondGeography Aug 2018 #5
Thanks for the compliment. SamKnause Aug 2018 #9
They need to grow a spine and fight for this country. LenaBaby61 Aug 2018 #38
Kick for exposure Angry Dragon Aug 2018 #8
Thank you. SamKnause Aug 2018 #11
Why is this question being asked? world wide wally Aug 2018 #12
Because the media talks about it nonstop. SamKnause Aug 2018 #15
Trump has NEVER showed even a modicum of interest in ever compromising on anything world wide wally Aug 2018 #17
I am fully aware. SamKnause Aug 2018 #18
background billionaires Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2018 #44
Huh? Why? What for? No way lunasun Aug 2018 #58
If only we could! vlyons Aug 2018 #13
Agreed. I keep watching and waiting. nt LAS14 Aug 2018 #45
"It's not impossible." LenaBaby61 Aug 2018 #50
as long as you think that it's impossible vlyons Aug 2018 #60
Yes! It always means getting screwed! 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2018 #16
Under 8 years of Obama, including the Tea Freaking Party Mr. Ected Aug 2018 #19
Exactly. SamKnause Aug 2018 #20
An eye for an eye, leaves the whole world blind mythology Aug 2018 #21
Allowing the republicans to stomp all over us leaves us bruised and ineffective. SamKnause Aug 2018 #22
Almost as tired as I am of hearing that Dems must move to the center... pecosbob Aug 2018 #23
Exactly. SamKnause Aug 2018 #25
Which puts the GOP . . . Roadside Attraction Aug 2018 #28
Yeah...you kind of have to say full-on Nazi at this point pecosbob Aug 2018 #33
i was a moderate. the posts were moved Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2018 #51
Yes,I am also tired of Ind. True Blue American Aug 2018 #24
Ind ??? SamKnause Aug 2018 #26
Independent. True Blue American Aug 2018 #41
I thought that was what it meant, but I wanted to be sure. SamKnause Aug 2018 #49
Now, now . . . Roadside Attraction Aug 2018 #27
That works! True Blue American Aug 2018 #42
Republican leadership has saidsimplesimon Aug 2018 #29
1. What media says that repeatedly? Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #30
CNN and MSNBC is what I listen to all day and night. SamKnause Aug 2018 #35
I'm a news and political junkie. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #40
Huh? True Blue American Aug 2018 #43
And? Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #47
We need to reach across the aisle with a flame-thrower FiveGoodMen Aug 2018 #31
Since the late 60s... SergeStorms Aug 2018 #32
Why shake hands with a scorpion? NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #34
I would just say that I'm tired of the corporate media...period. pecosbob Aug 2018 #36
The same media says JustAnotherGen Aug 2018 #37
My reach across the Aisle would involve items not intended to promote dialog. Ford_Prefect Aug 2018 #39
We'll compromise and get along when... mudstump Aug 2018 #46
You're right Sam Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #48
Amen!! Hulk Aug 2018 #52
Second chance, yes, third chance, not going to happen. kurtcagle Aug 2018 #53
K&R, good summary post. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #54
K&R UTUSN Aug 2018 #55
I'm tired of hearing 'both sides'.. who do we have equivalent to the orange, lying POS? spanone Aug 2018 #56
The republicans are the enemy. D23MIURG23 Aug 2018 #61
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