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W_HAMILTON

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39. You can rely on whatever you want, but facts are facts.

Fri Sep 7, 2018, 01:25 PM

Sep 2018

White supremacists like Richard Spencer were using the hand gesture well in advance of the thread on 4chan. This is a fact.

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Posting this for anyone who argued Zina Bash was an innocent victim on Tuesday [View all] kpete Sep 2018 OP

That's what I thought when I first Cha Sep 2018 #1

Bash got her queue from someone on Eyeball_Kid Sep 2018 #65

I read that.. and smirked her way through it. Cha Sep 2018 #69

Regrets, but I'm standing up for restraint. Hortensis Sep 2018 #88

Is this legit? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #2

PBS, via non-anon Twitter. Here she gives White Power sign, unnaturally & obviously, previous day Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #20

Thanks. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2018 #25

I watched the entire hearing. pazzyanne Sep 2018 #26

Why is she wearing a Ruth Bader Ginsberg style lace collar? CottonBear Sep 2018 #3

In her case money, place , power see Miller, &Mnuchin but what about the deplorables who are lunasun Sep 2018 #5

One name atreides1 Sep 2018 #6

Said and done. UTUSN Sep 2018 #63

how can Stephen Miller be a nazi? barbtries Sep 2018 #16

There were Jews serving in Hitler's army. LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #17

--- because she doesn't get it, her best buds hate her. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #23

Ask Ben Carson how he supports a blatantly racist President. NT Adrahil Sep 2018 #31

For one thing, she is a practicing christian rusty fender Sep 2018 #41

There are a lot of people of color, or who belong to culturally marginalized groups... Caliman73 Sep 2018 #59

And then they cry tears of shock and surprise when ICE comes to deport them DFW Sep 2018 #70

True. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #71

What? His best bud behind him? No! Video link lunasun Sep 2018 #4

Thank you. I was shocked by the deniers on DU earlier this week. Pretty can be ugly. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #7

brings to mind a quote by Maya Angelou FM123 Sep 2018 #8

wait...educate me, please? Trueblue Texan Sep 2018 #9

Good point who throws out an OK instead of covering their mouth while yawning ? lunasun Sep 2018 #12

What people are leaving out is that the ADL doesn't regard this as a white power symbol mythology Sep 2018 #22

Yep jberryhill Sep 2018 #52

Catch up. The white supremacists co-opted that sign and they... brush Sep 2018 #62

Sorry... that's fallacious FBaggins Sep 2018 #83

Sorry. The fact that others use it as an ok sign doesn't stop... brush Sep 2018 #84

You're missing the fallacy FBaggins Sep 2018 #90

Nobody is missing any fallacy, just as no one is saying anyone who... brush Sep 2018 #91

Lol! Did you somehow miss the rest of the thread? n/t FBaggins Sep 2018 #92

Give it up. You don't want to admit the sign was re-purposed. brush Sep 2018 #93

Jury is still out on that. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #53

I had a half-Jewish cousin like Zina Bash Beakybird Sep 2018 #10

Undeniable. Zina Bash is a vile creature. dalton99a Sep 2018 #11

Those who argued her righteousness are clueless... LanternWaste Sep 2018 #13

It looks like an OK sign to me. No? LAS14 Sep 2018 #14

The White Power hand sign is held differently than the OK hand sign. haele Sep 2018 #21

Oh ffs Alea Sep 2018 #29

Thank you. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #34

That's wrong. W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #37

I'll rely on the Anti-Defamation League for accurate information. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #38

You can rely on whatever you want, but facts are facts. W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #39

Where does it stop? Alea Sep 2018 #43

It is also a fact that a broken analog clock is right twice a day. It doesn't mean it isn't broken. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #50

Yes and so was Clinton jberryhill Sep 2018 #56

No shit it was a perfectly normal gesture before white supremacists started using it. W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #80

Lots and lots of people were using the "OK" hand gesture in advance of the thread on 4chan. PoliticAverse Sep 2018 #79

Universal hand gesture for OK hijacked by alt right Alea Sep 2018 #44

Here you go ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #47

The clips purporting to demonstrate that she is flashing the white power symbol Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #54

So what's this? The okay sign? Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #85

It's someone who knows that liberals believe the hoax Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #94

It's not the symbol, it's the person Fla_Democrat Sep 2018 #96

From my twitter feed Gothmog Sep 2018 #76

Whoever she is, she's being an ass Catherine Vincent Sep 2018 #15

even after the first brouhaha, AmandaRuth Sep 2018 #18

Coincidences Take Planning... dlk Sep 2018 #19

Yep. n/t demmiblue Sep 2018 #24

seriously someone needs to ask her AmandaRuth Sep 2018 #27

I would like to know the answer to that. demmiblue Sep 2018 #30

Yes clearly they are just saying OK to the camera and like Bash it was nothing more. lunasun Sep 2018 #86

threepers Ponietz Sep 2018 #28

Wait a minute.... Adrahil Sep 2018 #32

It was not highjacked by white supremacists. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #35

And the fact that white sumpremacists are now using it? Remember when Pepe was just a troll? NT Adrahil Sep 2018 #42

Exactly! rusty fender Sep 2018 #45

Nonsense. Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #61

You are ignoring its use in context. rusty fender Sep 2018 #68

Exactly. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #72

Yes, and some people stick their heads in the rusty fender Sep 2018 #74

Why keep denying it. It's what it means to them not you or me or the ADL. brush Sep 2018 #81

I think what it means now is that they are yanking our chain, Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #95

See post #84. brush Sep 2018 #97

Like a kid brother who discovers that his big sister reacts to a particular gesture, or face, or wor Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #51

It's just a bizarre distraction. joshcryer Sep 2018 #46

It's gaslighting RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #58

K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Bonx Sep 2018 #36

I can't believe white supremacists let a non white into their group. blueinredohio Sep 2018 #40

I have read about some white supremacists accepting European Jews and IluvPitties Sep 2018 #49

This DailyBeast article addresses this - as apparently it is not uncommon anymore salin Sep 2018 #87

Where are our peeps with their hand signals? ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #48

Zina is apparently an anagram. C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #55

Hmmm...interesting. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #82

Isn't that also an "OK" gesture? oberliner Sep 2018 #57

It certainly can be. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #64

Great post RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #66

Thanks. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #67

That looks like a booger-flinging gesture Donkees Sep 2018 #60

It's not okay. Swede Sep 2018 #73

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2018 #75

She appeared to be mouthing "bullshit" to the question asked to Kavanaugh... Historic NY Sep 2018 #77

Dang it. even the Buddha. aikoaiko Sep 2018 #78

Having seen all the info back and forth I stand... LAS14 Sep 2018 #89

"I Am an Idiot: Zina Bash's OK Sign Was Completely Innocent After All" PoliticAverse Sep 2018 #98