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Leith

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32. The Problem with This Debate Is

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 01:09 PM

Oct 2018

that we can NOT leave math, philosophy, and ethics out of the equation.

We live in a complex society. People's lives will be influenced on what goes on in the Supreme Court. That influence will go from hardly noticing and run through the shades into lives cut off too early.

This is not a battle that we can lose and still win in a couple years. The war is extended for at least another generation.

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Please don't flame me, but we could be better off politically with a Kav. confirmation [View all] louis c Oct 2018 OP

We can't live in fear of a Trumpanzee turnout at the polls dalton99a Oct 2018 #1

+1 I'm with you on that. It's hard to put the genie back in the bottle. OnDoutside Oct 2018 #56

If We Survive PaulX2 Oct 2018 #2

I have seen this idea discussed elsewhere, and I agree with you. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2018 #3

Thank you, Peggy, you get my point louis c Oct 2018 #38

It could very well work out that we control Congress and can then investigate Kavanaugh brewens Oct 2018 #4

Impeach him? and then what? He'll still be on the bench themaguffin Oct 2018 #11

Federal judges are civil officers and thus fall within the jurisdiction of Article 2, Section 4 LanternWaste Oct 2018 #20

but it still requires the Senate, no? themaguffin Oct 2018 #23

Last Supreme Ct Justice impeachment was 1805 irisblue Oct 2018 #30

Would take 67 and Kav doesn't strike me as the surrendering type Amishman Oct 2018 #57

people are all over the place with this qazplm135 Oct 2018 #5

Shall we call this the Sarandon strategy? Baitball Blogger Oct 2018 #6

That was my first thought. Croney Oct 2018 #29

The Sarandon Position Cost Us a Branch of Government louis c Oct 2018 #33

some things transcend political calculations lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #7

And replacing him with who? louis c Oct 2018 #40

not a rapist? lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #42

His next Federalist Society placement on the court will mean they win the war eleny Oct 2018 #8

But if Kavanaugh goes down, and we lose the Senate louis c Oct 2018 #34

We're boxed in if we don't win the Senate eleny Oct 2018 #47

fuck that. we shouldn't normalize and accept white male rapists JI7 Oct 2018 #9

Nope. honest.abe Oct 2018 #10

Absolutely. themaguffin Oct 2018 #12

Also it helps that he would have a ton of investigations Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #13

Lots of good sense, but most common thought is the Republicans Hortensis Oct 2018 #14

No need to flame you, you self immolated on ur own, lol BootinUp Oct 2018 #15

A win in Congress is for a couple of years; Kavanaugh would be in the Supreme Court for decades muriel_volestrangler Oct 2018 #16

I'm done being captive to conservative anger, based in reality or fantasy gratuitous Oct 2018 #17

No. He's a liar and a serial sexual assaulter. He hates women. Just no. Squinch Oct 2018 #18

You miss the forest for the trees Charlotte Little Oct 2018 #19

+++ Yes this it - in a nutshell FakeNoose Oct 2018 #22

HELL NO. No "short term" gain is worth the "long term" hell. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #21

If this guy gets on the court elections might not matter standingtall Oct 2018 #24

Who makes the next appointment? louis c Oct 2018 #35

Exactly. Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #39

Does not matter if repukes keep the senate and they probably will by standingtall Oct 2018 #48

I don't agree. Blue_true Oct 2018 #25

Who is this mercuryblues Oct 2018 #26

I'd agree if Bernie made the replacement choice, but alas louis c Oct 2018 #41

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #43

I disagree .. If Kav goes down -- they will be despirited Le Gaucher Oct 2018 #27

I don't think the conservative voters are "elastic" based on emotions. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2018 #28

A Kavanaugh Confirmation Would Certainly Pump Up the Democratic Base louis c Oct 2018 #36

So would a defeat EffieBlack Oct 2018 #46

I agree.... Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #31

The Problem with This Debate Is Leith Oct 2018 #32

Kavanaugh's Replacement will not be a Liberal Justice louis c Oct 2018 #37

This makes sense IF we know that Heitkamp, Manchin et al will lose because of their "no" votes Alhena Oct 2018 #44

That's easy to say from a position of privilege EffieBlack Oct 2018 #45

Actually, it's short term. 5 weeks from today louis c Oct 2018 #49

You think that winning Congress in 2018 is worth letting Kavanaugh onto the Court for life? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #54

We should fight as hard as we can to stop Kavanaugh... louis c Oct 2018 #58

I seem to recall people hoping Trump would win the R nomination because he would be easy to beat inwiththenew Oct 2018 #50

The only reason they're pushing Kav is to say "fuck you" to democrats. Initech Oct 2018 #51

Sorry, I'm tired of playing the Blue_Tires Oct 2018 #52

I would agree if we can prevent this seat from ever being filled until we have a Dem. Pres. louis c Oct 2018 #55

And, we all lose morally. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #53