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34. Why take Atheism so personal? It's

Reply to trotsky (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:40 PM

Aug 2012

not a religion.

I'm very sure there are some evil atheists as well as some nice ones.

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Ayn Rand was an Atheist [View all] B Calm Aug 2012 OP

And a welfare queen Xipe Totec Aug 2012 #1

You consider Social Security and Medicare... meaculpa2011 Aug 2012 #91

No, of course not. Xipe Totec Aug 2012 #94

Militant Atheist MattBaggins Aug 2012 #2

And wrote fiction which Ryan adheres to n/t Smilo Aug 2012 #3

Maybe I'm clueless.. but did Ron Paul actually name his son "RAND" because of Ayn Rand?? n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #4

I think he did! B Calm Aug 2012 #5

Thom Hartmann asked him this. Ron Paul said no. white_wolf Aug 2012 #7

Krugerrand? :) reformist2 Aug 2012 #48

His name is Randal. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #68

Technically, hasn't Ryan thrown Rand under bus? white_wolf Aug 2012 #6

they don't read Ayn Rand (does anyone) Johonny Aug 2012 #8

"they don't read Ayn Rand" white_wolf Aug 2012 #10

That's a very good point. They do use her work like a totem that validates their faith Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #23

I haven't read Thomas Aquinas mrs_p Aug 2012 #32

How will this sit with Ryan's Catholic church? RebelOne Aug 2012 #9

Does Ryan even care? The Bishops called his budget immoral catbyte Aug 2012 #11

That should be hedgehog Aug 2012 #13

They urged him to choose between Rand and Jesus. alfredo Aug 2012 #38

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*gasp* An atheist??? JNelson6563 Aug 2012 #14

You'd think any good upstanding B Calm Aug 2012 #17

I doubt he's an atheist JNelson6563 Aug 2012 #19

I think he is! He probably is B Calm Aug 2012 #20

Yes, because only an atheist could be that evil, right? n/t trotsky Aug 2012 #25

There seems to be exactly that implication. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #30

Why take Atheism so personal? It's B Calm Aug 2012 #34

What I'm taking "personal (sic)" is the insinuation... trotsky Aug 2012 #37

Having thin skin is not an atheist trait! B Calm Aug 2012 #39

Actually, the only "atheist trait" is lacking belief in god(s). trotsky Aug 2012 #43

No, but a penchant for logic is, and you're failing at it. nt redqueen Aug 2012 #59

I think the OP Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #44

The OP, yes. But subsequent posts have clearly tacked that part on. trotsky Aug 2012 #45

I hear you on that... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #50

Would you be advocating for this tactic if it was associated with a different group? trotsky Aug 2012 #51

On the gay? I'd beat him like a rented mule. Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #52

So you would exploit hatred against homosexuals and Jews... trotsky Aug 2012 #53

Bit of a leap, don't you think? Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #54

No, you said you would use those issues as a wedge. trotsky Aug 2012 #56

That's not what I said and it's not what I meant Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #60

I just think it's wrong to feed and perpetuate harmful stereotypes. trotsky Aug 2012 #61

WOW Mr Dixon Aug 2012 #46

Right wing Evangelists have more in common with Rand than not, I think. LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #15

Some Rand quotes Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #18

Interesting quotes. I was mezmerized by this one. LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #21

Austerity is what he is calling for.... YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #24

And Joseph Smith was a Polytheist. I call that a balanced ticket. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #16

And a douchebag with no writing chops Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #22

How will they ever find out? Their pastors and Fox and Rush won't tell them. nt valerief Aug 2012 #26

I guess it's up to us to B Calm Aug 2012 #88

It wont matter. rrneck Aug 2012 #27

Sadly, Rand was not the only RW atheist. nt Deep13 Aug 2012 #28

Does Paul Rat know he is an atheist Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #29

Of course he knows! The question is, B Calm Aug 2012 #41

not yet! Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #42

Ryan likes NDAA, TARP, the Patriot Act, and bailouts Ter Aug 2012 #31

Are you more concerned about Rand's philosphy or atheism that Ryan allegedly follows? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #33

Whoosh. . . B Calm Aug 2012 #64

NO, the OP is talking about right wing Evangelical Types , and what their views on Ryan being an JI7 Aug 2012 #66

Which proves that even atheists can write bad novels and be admired by idiots. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #35

All the Libertarians I've known smoked dope and were Atheist. alfredo Aug 2012 #36

Ayn Rand didn't have any use for libertarians either Major Nikon Aug 2012 #96

Freud wasn't a Freudian they say. Why couldn't they alfredo Aug 2012 #97

Stupid atheists! Iggo Aug 2012 #40

and Hitler was a Catholic. So what? nt mr blur Aug 2012 #47

They don't care... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #49

Satanism is just Objectivism Nevernose Aug 2012 #55

Exactly BarackTheVote Aug 2012 #67

Right wingers need to stop lying to themselves and just worship Ayn. redqueen Aug 2012 #57

Kick! sarcasmo Aug 2012 #58

She was Pro-Abortion too. IcyPeas Aug 2012 #62

Hero worshipping Ayn Rand was Ryan's downfall. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #63

Has anyone here asked Evangelicals in their area what they think of Ryan being an Atheist ? JI7 Aug 2012 #65

The Romney/Ryan ticket is bad for America... Karmasue Aug 2012 #70

Don't a lot of Fundie mega churches preach capitalism, competition, and building wealth aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #69

Not only was she a militant liberalhistorian Aug 2012 #71

What's scarier than that is a guy who follows the teachings of Joseph Smith... Alduin Aug 2012 #72

Is it all religions, Karmasue Aug 2012 #74

Mormons are idiots. Alduin Aug 2012 #81

Your avatar doesn't reflect hate, it's just clipart... Karmasue Aug 2012 #84

Why do I hate religions? Alduin Aug 2012 #86

And Mormons aren't idiots. Karmasue Aug 2012 #85

You can't use "educated" and "intelligent" when talking about Mormons. Alduin Aug 2012 #87

Religous bigotry is not nice. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #90

So Mormons are intelligent? Alduin Aug 2012 #92

At least they're not assholes. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #95

I'd rather be an asshole than stupid. Alduin Aug 2012 #98

and a communist Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #73

Just to be clear... Karmasue Aug 2012 #75

Requiring your staff to purchase and read a book, any book, goes beyond cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #78

Please, we don't want to explain or apologize. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #76

ANYONE BUT THE BLACK GUY! Heather MC Aug 2012 #77

I guarantee you that if Obama was in any, shape or form linked with Ayn Rand, cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #79

They would be attacking Obama non stop. B Calm Aug 2012 #83

As an agnostic/nontheist I'm concerned about highlighting the spectre of atheism... Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #80

Atheism is useful only because it is the only way possible to reach the intellectually challenged cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #82

I only call myself atheist based on the Judeo-Christian definition of god Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #89

I find it fascinating that Paul Ryan is thus far negotiating a foot in each camp... cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #93

Ryan lists Rage Against the Machine as one of his favorite bands... Act_of_Reparation Aug 2012 #99