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In reply to the discussion: "Dear white women: Black women can't save you" [View all]BumRushDaShow
(169,363 posts)44. Hate to do this but
why were black women suffragettes and civil rights organizers told to got to the back of the Womens' Marches?
Ida Wells-Barnett confronts race and gender discrimination
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Perhaps one of Wells-Barnett's most important stands occurred at the March 3, 1913, National American Woman Suffrage Association (NAWSA) parade in the nation's capital. NAWSA was the national umbrella organization for state suffrage affiliates. Its history dated to 1890 when the National Woman Suffrage Association and the American Woman Suffrage Association merged their forces and resources. The primary goal was to enfranchise women. But, NAWSA did not always embrace all women. The southern white women encouraged to seek membership in NAWSA adhered to the same white supremacy ideology that their men championed. Dependence on southerners for the passage of full suffrage rights for women muffled any opposition that NAWSA might have harbored to the usurpation of the social, economic, and political rights that blacks gained during the Reconstruction years. NAWSA refused to publicly denounce racial segregation, adopted a policy of expediency, and accepted Jim Crow within its own ranks. This left the door open for state affiliates to discriminate against black women. But Illinois suffragists had always embraced African-American women like Wells-Barnett and encouraged their participation in the state movement. The Women's State Central Committee, for example, utilized Wells-Barnett's lecturing skills and enlisted her aid in canvassing the state to encourage women to organize and develop political knowledge.
Despite the progressive attitude of white female Illinois suffragists, they refused to support her in the historic suffrage march in Washington. Carrying banners representing almost every state in the Union, thousands of parade marchers underscored the demand for universal female enfranchisement. Wells-Barnett was one of sixty-five enthusiastic delegates from Illinois and one of many black women who participated in the march. But the African-American women were instructed to gather as one unit at the end of the procession because the NAWSA forbade the integration of state affiliates in the march. Wells-Barnett refused to comply with the NAWSA demand and instead lined up with her state contingent. Grace Wilbur Trout, president of the Illinois Equal Suffrage Association and chairperson of the group, initially sanctioned the integrated group. But after meeting with a NAWSA official, she told the delegation that Wells-Barnett could not march with the state contingent. Further, if they failed to follow the instructions set forth by the NAWSA, the entire delegation would be denied participation in the march.
Angry at the blatant disregard for her rights as a woman and as an Illinois resident, Wells-Barnett refused to comply. It was time to confront racism within the suffrage movement. Southern women, she argued, had evaded the issues of race, and the NAWSA and its state affiliates had allowed it. She wanted the Illinois group to show the nation that it was progressive enough to stand against NAWSA's hypocrisy of oppressing women because of their race while embracing the idea of equality for all women at the ballot box. Her pleas, however, fell on deaf ears. So did the pleas of two white colleagues, Belle Squire and Virginia Brooks.
Deeply disturbed over the action that her comrades had taken, Wells-Barnett left the parade site. The delegates assumed that she had relented and decided to march with the black contingent. But as the delegates began marching down Pennsylvania Avenue, she quietly stepped out from the crowd of spectators and joined the only white Illinois colleagues sympathetic to her cause, Squire and Brooks. So important was the scene that a photograph of her flanked by the two white women appeared in the Chicago Daily Tribune giving the event and its participants local and national exposure. Southern marchers did not defect, but perhaps in part because they did not learn of the incident until after the parade ended. The press coverage reassured many black women of their own place in the suffrage movement and probably convinced many whites that the question of race, gender, and enfranchisement were inextricably tied.
http://www.lib.niu.edu/1996/iht319630.html
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Perhaps one of Wells-Barnett's most important stands occurred at the March 3, 1913, National American Woman Suffrage Association (NAWSA) parade in the nation's capital. NAWSA was the national umbrella organization for state suffrage affiliates. Its history dated to 1890 when the National Woman Suffrage Association and the American Woman Suffrage Association merged their forces and resources. The primary goal was to enfranchise women. But, NAWSA did not always embrace all women. The southern white women encouraged to seek membership in NAWSA adhered to the same white supremacy ideology that their men championed. Dependence on southerners for the passage of full suffrage rights for women muffled any opposition that NAWSA might have harbored to the usurpation of the social, economic, and political rights that blacks gained during the Reconstruction years. NAWSA refused to publicly denounce racial segregation, adopted a policy of expediency, and accepted Jim Crow within its own ranks. This left the door open for state affiliates to discriminate against black women. But Illinois suffragists had always embraced African-American women like Wells-Barnett and encouraged their participation in the state movement. The Women's State Central Committee, for example, utilized Wells-Barnett's lecturing skills and enlisted her aid in canvassing the state to encourage women to organize and develop political knowledge.
Despite the progressive attitude of white female Illinois suffragists, they refused to support her in the historic suffrage march in Washington. Carrying banners representing almost every state in the Union, thousands of parade marchers underscored the demand for universal female enfranchisement. Wells-Barnett was one of sixty-five enthusiastic delegates from Illinois and one of many black women who participated in the march. But the African-American women were instructed to gather as one unit at the end of the procession because the NAWSA forbade the integration of state affiliates in the march. Wells-Barnett refused to comply with the NAWSA demand and instead lined up with her state contingent. Grace Wilbur Trout, president of the Illinois Equal Suffrage Association and chairperson of the group, initially sanctioned the integrated group. But after meeting with a NAWSA official, she told the delegation that Wells-Barnett could not march with the state contingent. Further, if they failed to follow the instructions set forth by the NAWSA, the entire delegation would be denied participation in the march.
Angry at the blatant disregard for her rights as a woman and as an Illinois resident, Wells-Barnett refused to comply. It was time to confront racism within the suffrage movement. Southern women, she argued, had evaded the issues of race, and the NAWSA and its state affiliates had allowed it. She wanted the Illinois group to show the nation that it was progressive enough to stand against NAWSA's hypocrisy of oppressing women because of their race while embracing the idea of equality for all women at the ballot box. Her pleas, however, fell on deaf ears. So did the pleas of two white colleagues, Belle Squire and Virginia Brooks.
Deeply disturbed over the action that her comrades had taken, Wells-Barnett left the parade site. The delegates assumed that she had relented and decided to march with the black contingent. But as the delegates began marching down Pennsylvania Avenue, she quietly stepped out from the crowd of spectators and joined the only white Illinois colleagues sympathetic to her cause, Squire and Brooks. So important was the scene that a photograph of her flanked by the two white women appeared in the Chicago Daily Tribune giving the event and its participants local and national exposure. Southern marchers did not defect, but perhaps in part because they did not learn of the incident until after the parade ended. The press coverage reassured many black women of their own place in the suffrage movement and probably convinced many whites that the question of race, gender, and enfranchisement were inextricably tied.
http://www.lib.niu.edu/1996/iht319630.html

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Adilah Barnes @Adilah_Barnes
#FBF w/ #AdilahBarnes in IRON JAWED ANGELS. I was elated to play IDA B. WELLS opposite #HillarySwank!
7:08 PM - Oct 20, 2017
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oberliner
Oct 2018
#2
A majority of white women have voted for the Republican presidential nominee in all but two election
CentralMass
Oct 2018
#107
Huge factor, many women in business & the private sector corporate world.
appalachiablue
Oct 2018
#168
This has been tried before, and who was the last Democratic President to get the white vote?
JHan
Oct 2018
#183
Those 53% are just as misogynistic and racist as their husbands, fathers and brothers.
brush
Oct 2018
#227
Yep. And a small % of white women is a lot of women, so that's a lot of
Dark n Stormy Knight
Oct 2018
#211
I spoke to one this morning, I thought she was a friend and walked away nauseated
populistdriven
Oct 2018
#221
Can we distinguish between single white females vs. MARRIED white females. And college-educated
kerry-is-my-prez
Oct 2018
#222
I can't say I blame you, but thank goodness black women show up to the fight every
tblue37
Oct 2018
#6
I'm just tired of having to fight for everyone else but when we need support
EffieBlack
Oct 2018
#13
Unsure how you infer referring to the direction a discussion has taken as absurd as YOU being absurd
EffieBlack
Oct 2018
#191
This Emmy-winning video (that I posted before a couple times) is comforting
BumRushDaShow
Oct 2018
#237
The AKAs and other black sororities and fraternities are VERY politically engaged
EffieBlack
Oct 2018
#154
Yes. How dare we not show sufficient and heartfelt gratitude to our great white liberal allies
EffieBlack
Oct 2018
#192
Suffragists were abolitionists who forged alliances with black americans who like them were not
boston bean
Oct 2018
#18
Apparently, you missed that big chunk of history when black men AND black women
EffieBlack
Oct 2018
#34
Effie we fight against it. We are in it. But what power do you think we have over
boston bean
Oct 2018
#57
Effie you want me to fight idiots on D in this thread.. I've been doing that for over 10 years.
boston bean
Oct 2018
#71
I am trying to explain why I don't believe the OP (twitter) post is wrong headed.
boston bean
Oct 2018
#78
Why are you working so hard to tell EffieBlack *you agree with her* rather than do a little work?
WhiskeyGrinder
Oct 2018
#81
Don't apologize. Just call out the bigoted bullshit that's here ON THIS VERY BOARD.
WhiskeyGrinder
Oct 2018
#70
I am betrayed by them as well. I am not just some person who can convince people.
boston bean
Oct 2018
#82
Then why ask me what you can do if you think you're already doing everything you can?
EffieBlack
Oct 2018
#85
I wrote to you thoughtful responses. If you want to attribute to me the power
boston bean
Oct 2018
#109
Every response you have made in this thread has centered on you and the work you say you do.
WhiskeyGrinder
Oct 2018
#114
It has not. I spoke of the many allies and then got my ass handed to me for doing so.
boston bean
Oct 2018
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Talk to your sisters, cousins, co-workers, fellow church goers about the repug misogynists who...
brush
Oct 2018
#245
Of course we are. But why blame the peolle fighting along with you to eradicate it.
boston bean
Oct 2018
#112
"Get your house in order". Seems to be blaming white women for not being able to control others.
boston bean
Oct 2018
#119
If it's not about you, it's not about you. Talking about how it's not about you makes it about you.
WhiskeyGrinder
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#124
Just when you think you've done the work of fighting the internal fight
violetpastille
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The corollary you practice so consistently seems the only 'proof' you require
LanternWaste
Oct 2018
#247
This would be a valid argument or post if "black" and "white" had the same level of privilege in
WhiskeyGrinder
Oct 2018
#49
You are seeing things that aren't there from the OP, and projecting fears and issues you have all
WhiskeyGrinder
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The great thing about this bigotry against Caucasians you consistently claim...
LanternWaste
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#248
That would come as a surprise to the whites who died during the civil rights fight.
Honeycombe8
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The interests of black women and white women are not necessarily the same.
WhiskeyGrinder
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#96
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Hekate
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#208
Ooo, "merciful". I've been posting here since 2002, and have not bled to death yet.
Hekate
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#225
If someone is "alienated" because of what a stranger writes on an anonymous online discussion board
EffieBlack
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#226
You're blaming Democrats because Republicans supported Kavanaugh? Are you a Democrat?
Honeycombe8
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Or, instead of telling me to shut up and go away because I make you uncomfortable,
EffieBlack
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Actually Effie. I like your posts. You can put me on ignore, but I won't put you on ignore.
Blue_true
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No problem. But you did make some good points that caused me to expand on. nt
Blue_true
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I'm afraid people are so clueless that they can't learn anything until it's a total loss.
lindysalsagal
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Yes back women have it worse, yes many white women are bigots. But what kind of power do you
boston bean
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"But what kind of power do you think white women have over white supremacists."
WhiskeyGrinder
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#55
The point of that tweet is that white women can start going at the other white women
nini
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#98
Yes, black women speaking the truth are often seen as "angry" and "condescending."
WhiskeyGrinder
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#56
I'm glad Christine Blasey Ford finally got off her duff and stopped waiting for black women
BeyondGeography
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#100
I think part of the reason these discussions get so difficult is because some people are talking
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Excellent OP. Ironicallhy, the same logical applies to the "drug" problem. It wasn't a problem
still_one
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Do you think women from other backgrounds accusing men of the same have better luck?
kcr
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#170
It afforded her more protection that.if she weren't a privileged white woman
EffieBlack
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#163
People are in the streets because they don't want a justice seated who will overturn Roe
kcr
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#165
"doubt that we'd have seen as many white men in the streets...protesting if it been a black woman."
BumRushDaShow
Oct 2018
#176
I'm always late to these parties..... Anyway, this is the 100% truth following the election one of
Afromania
Oct 2018
#147
This is not a hill for me to die on, so I won't wade any deeper than this response.
Socal31
Oct 2018
#193
Interesting, there's been discussion right in this thread about what more black people can do
EffieBlack
Oct 2018
#207
MARRIED white women. Apparently getting married to a white male turns your brain to mush.
kerry-is-my-prez
Oct 2018
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