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EffieBlack

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"Dear white women: Black women can't save you" [View all] EffieBlack Oct 2018 OP

Except, if a black woman is on your ballot greymattermom Oct 2018 #1

I love how this is the very first reply :-) populistdriven Oct 2018 #232

"Do not EVEN TRY to tell me...you don't know any white women who are ok with Kavanaugh..." oberliner Oct 2018 #2

I know plenty Tree-Hugger Oct 2018 #19

As do I. Texin Oct 2018 #52

There are several in my family Politicub Oct 2018 #72

You hit the nail on the head. Snackshack Oct 2018 #230

53% of white zentrum Oct 2018 #77

A majority of white women have voted for the Republican presidential nominee in all but two election CentralMass Oct 2018 #107

I'm still wondering zentrum Oct 2018 #132

The article was about women who vote. CentralMass Oct 2018 #142

I get that. zentrum Oct 2018 #155

Huge factor, many women in business & the private sector corporate world. appalachiablue Oct 2018 #168

Irrelevant Caliman73 Oct 2018 #127

It's not irrelevant. zentrum Oct 2018 #145

This has been tried before, and who was the last Democratic President to get the white vote? JHan Oct 2018 #183

Census data BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #190

Or, Trump may have won bigger. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #236

I do understand what we are dealing with. zentrum Oct 2018 #239

Those 53% are just as misogynistic and racist as their husbands, fathers and brothers. brush Oct 2018 #227

Completely agree. zentrum Oct 2018 #238

Yep. And a small % of white women is a lot of women, so that's a lot of Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2018 #211

Hi, Boo - I love it when you're you! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #92

Thank you - I appreciate that oberliner Oct 2018 #241

Vote enid602 Oct 2018 #178

I spoke to one this morning, I thought she was a friend and walked away nauseated populistdriven Oct 2018 #221

It can be very tough - especially with family members oberliner Oct 2018 #243

Can we distinguish between single white females vs. MARRIED white females. And college-educated kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 #222

I'm fine with that EffieBlack Oct 2018 #223

My birth mother is Marrah_Goodman Oct 2018 #229

And some of these white women, at least the GWC58 Oct 2018 #231

OTOH, black women DID save us from Roy Moore. In fact, a lot of the electoral tblue37 Oct 2018 #3

This is EXACTLY UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #4

Healthcare is an issue for A LOT of women and it does need to be... SMC22307 Oct 2018 #39

It's not the same, though... UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #113

Yes, we did. But we're tired of saving their asses EffieBlack Oct 2018 #5

I can't say I blame you, but thank goodness black women show up to the fight every tblue37 Oct 2018 #6

I'm just tired of having to fight for everyone else but when we need support EffieBlack Oct 2018 #13

Just a thought: UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #121

See this- BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #131

You've kinda said what I've said. UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #143

That's surprising to hear EffieBlack Oct 2018 #159

I never said... UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #161

I hear you, but am a little puzzled t at how this discussion EffieBlack Oct 2018 #167

Oh, well... UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #180

I started this thread EffieBlack Oct 2018 #184

Yea, I know... UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #186

My question was rhetorical EffieBlack Oct 2018 #187

Ok,... UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #188

Unsure how you infer referring to the direction a discussion has taken as absurd as YOU being absurd EffieBlack Oct 2018 #191

I gave you a link of the joint Panhellenic Council political activities BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #169

Your last paragraph hit home UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #182

We did actually get a "seat at the table" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #200

You didn't tell... UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #235

This Emmy-winning video (that I posted before a couple times) is comforting BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #237

Don't forget us Kappas, Qs, Alphas and Sigmas are right behind you. brush Oct 2018 #244

Thank you! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #157

The AKAs and other black sororities and fraternities are VERY politically engaged EffieBlack Oct 2018 #154

I appreciate your suggestion UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #160

I think Effie mentioned WHY the organizations, as registered BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #171

Thank you UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #185

Yes I am learning some stuff myself BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #195

FYI - National Action Network NEVER endorses candidates EffieBlack Oct 2018 #196

Their NPO registration won't allow it either! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #198

Wait one second. Give black men some credit too. We are the second highest... brush Oct 2018 #242

Dearest EffieBlack WhiteTara Oct 2018 #35

Amen to that! Lonestarblue Oct 2018 #27

Good point... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #7

Wish I could K&R this 100 times. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #8

Why? It goes both ways. Blacks are only 13% of the population, Hortensis Oct 2018 #189

Yes. How dare we not show sufficient and heartfelt gratitude to our great white liberal allies EffieBlack Oct 2018 #192

It's about time for the 53% of my white sisters who mcar Oct 2018 #9

k&r ehrnst Oct 2018 #10

We are ALL women. Why are you so hostile to anyone who isn't black? Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #11

"rights fought for white women included black women." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #14

Suffragists were abolitionists who forged alliances with black americans who like them were not boston bean Oct 2018 #18

Apparently, you missed that big chunk of history when black men AND black women EffieBlack Oct 2018 #34

I think you are pissed off at the patriarchy as well as I. boston bean Oct 2018 #41

One thing that would be nice for white women allies to do EffieBlack Oct 2018 #45

Effie we fight against it. We are in it. But what power do you think we have over boston bean Oct 2018 #57

Who is this "we" of which you speak? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #60

Effie, I am with you. I am not against you. But I am a we. boston bean Oct 2018 #61

Please don't ask me what I think you can do and when I tell you EffieBlack Oct 2018 #66

Effie you want me to fight idiots on D in this thread.. I've been doing that for over 10 years. boston bean Oct 2018 #71

But you haven't done it in this actual thread. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #74

I am trying to explain why I don't believe the OP (twitter) post is wrong headed. boston bean Oct 2018 #78

Why are you working so hard to tell EffieBlack *you agree with her* rather than do a little work? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #81

You asked EffieBlack what you could do. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #62

Pretty sure I didn't say that. But a hell of a lot of them are. boston bean Oct 2018 #64

What? In post 57? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #65

Wow, very sorry for saying I and many have the same goals. boston bean Oct 2018 #68

Don't apologize. Just call out the bigoted bullshit that's here ON THIS VERY BOARD. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #70

I have for over ten years. Been pretty damn vocal. boston bean Oct 2018 #73

Keep doing what you're doing. Also talk to other white women about... brush Oct 2018 #246

Marching is easy EffieBlack Oct 2018 #75

I am betrayed by them as well. I am not just some person who can convince people. boston bean Oct 2018 #82

Then why ask me what you can do if you think you're already doing everything you can? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #85

Ok you win. I am just awful. Have a good day. boston bean Oct 2018 #103

Oh, please EffieBlack Oct 2018 #104

I wrote to you thoughtful responses. If you want to attribute to me the power boston bean Oct 2018 #109

Every response you have made in this thread has centered on you and the work you say you do. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #114

It has not. I spoke of the many allies and then got my ass handed to me for doing so. boston bean Oct 2018 #117

Talk to your sisters, cousins, co-workers, fellow church goers about the repug misogynists who... brush Oct 2018 #245

I believe we as white people... OneGrassRoot Oct 2018 #110

Of course we are. But why blame the peolle fighting along with you to eradicate it. boston bean Oct 2018 #112

There is no blame in this OP. None. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #115

"Get your house in order". Seems to be blaming white women for not being able to control others. boston bean Oct 2018 #119

If it's not about you, it's not about you. Talking about how it's not about you makes it about you. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #124

Umm it is about me. I am on your side and that is what the OP was about. boston bean Oct 2018 #128

Its lashing out to find someone to blame after a disappointing loss. LexVegas Oct 2018 #129

I take "Get your house in order" violetpastille Oct 2018 #148

"White Women are the White Men of Women." LexVegas Oct 2018 #152

People do realize this. And anyone fighting these fights boston bean Oct 2018 #153

Just when you think you've done the work of fighting the internal fight violetpastille Oct 2018 #162

+1 to both of your posts in this sub-thread. n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2018 #172

All of this is true. The problem I have is it seems to logically follow for some kcr Oct 2018 #194

I don't think anyone claims that white women don't have problems EffieBlack Oct 2018 #197

No one serious is, for sure. kcr Oct 2018 #199

Hate to do this but BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #44

Thank you JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #133

Exactly. BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #138

Here we go EffieBlack Oct 2018 #16

Of course melman Oct 2018 #29

Of course EffieBlack Oct 2018 #40

The corollary you practice so consistently seems the only 'proof' you require LanternWaste Oct 2018 #247

Also.... WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #17

+1 nt Tree-Hugger Oct 2018 #28

No some of them are just as virulent racists as the men 47of74 Oct 2018 #21

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #23

Stop spewing bigoted garbage. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #26

The OP is a bigoted post. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #31

"No one needs 'saving.'" WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #42

Dear Black women: White women cannot save you. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #46

This would be a valid argument or post if "black" and "white" had the same level of privilege in WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #49

Thank you. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #48

I'm clipping & saving this and other posts by the OP. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #38

You are seeing things that aren't there from the OP, and projecting fears and issues you have all WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #43

"I'm clipping & saving this and other posts by the OP." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #47

The great thing about this bigotry against Caucasians you consistently claim... LanternWaste Oct 2018 #248

You think "White women fought for our rights when no one else would?" EffieBlack Oct 2018 #22

That would come as a surprise to the whites who died during the civil rights fight. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #24

So, some whites fighting and dying in the Civil Rights movement means EffieBlack Oct 2018 #51

OP's post is divisive NJCher Oct 2018 #37

What exactly is divisive about it? Please be specific. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #59

it divides white women and black women for no reason NJCher Oct 2018 #91

How does the OP divide white women and black women? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #95

Nailed it. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #149

Truth n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2018 #233

The interests of black women and white women are not necessarily the same. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #96

Hello? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #240

Yes the OP's post is divisive, by design, as is so often the case. Chemisse Oct 2018 #141

Could the weren't-always-successful be related to Kind of Blue Oct 2018 #179

* slow clap * n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2018 #234

Read your last sentence over about 10 times nini Oct 2018 #54

Black women have it harder than white women. Period mcar Oct 2018 #83

Absolutely true. Chemisse Oct 2018 #150

I agree with you. metroins Oct 2018 #201

Awhile ago in a similar thread, I pointed out 3 human rights movements led by white women in America Hekate Oct 2018 #208

Maybe you got only crickets because people were being merciful to you EffieBlack Oct 2018 #218

Ooo, "merciful". I've been posting here since 2002, and have not bled to death yet. Hekate Oct 2018 #225

If someone is "alienated" because of what a stranger writes on an anonymous online discussion board EffieBlack Oct 2018 #226

Absolutely true Danascot Oct 2018 #12

You're blaming Democrats because Republicans supported Kavanaugh? Are you a Democrat? Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #15

No one's talking about enemies or parties. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #20

Honeycombe8. Blue_true Oct 2018 #32

EffieBlack does not need that kind of hostility sliding in her DMs. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #58

Or, instead of telling me to shut up and go away because I make you uncomfortable, EffieBlack Oct 2018 #63

Actually Effie. I like your posts. You can put me on ignore, but I won't put you on ignore. Blue_true Oct 2018 #79

I misread and misunderstood your previous post. I apologize. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #87

No problem. But you did make some good points that caused me to expand on. nt Blue_true Oct 2018 #94

I was just on Twitter referencing this thread ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #136

I'm afraid people are so clueless that they can't learn anything until it's a total loss. lindysalsagal Oct 2018 #25

White women who feel betrayed were probably voting for Democrats anyway. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #30

Yes back women have it worse, yes many white women are bigots. But what kind of power do you boston bean Oct 2018 #33

"But what kind of power do you think white women have over white supremacists." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #55

The point of that tweet is that white women can start going at the other white women nini Oct 2018 #98

K&R PunkinPi Oct 2018 #36

Zero wisdom in that tweet BeyondGeography Oct 2018 #50

"Mean-spirited?" Really? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #53

Yes, black women speaking the truth are often seen as "angry" and "condescending." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #56

Indeed EffieBlack Oct 2018 #67

Yup ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #88

Condescending and so fucking naive. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #97

I'm glad Christine Blasey Ford finally got off her duff and stopped waiting for black women BeyondGeography Oct 2018 #100

Ouch. But, yes, "persuadables ... running for the (Republican) exits." SMC22307 Oct 2018 #105

I think part of the reason these discussions get so difficult is because some people are talking WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #111

The Kavanaugh situation IS about race MountCleaners Oct 2018 #116

most black women believe dr. Ford. most white women support kavanaugh JI7 Oct 2018 #210

The Enemy laughs uproariously as you blindly attack your own allies. PubliusEnigma Oct 2018 #69

Not all of a kind are "our allies". BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #76

Recommended eleny Oct 2018 #80

Great advise Gothmog Oct 2018 #84

This is exactly right ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #86

Adding - I don't think white women JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #135

Yes ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #140

Funny that you don't mention Tim Scott. 58Sunliner Oct 2018 #89

Actually, I didn't mention ANY individual. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #90

The post is a call to arms to white women MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #93

Recommend! BeckyDem Oct 2018 #99

What about women that aren't white or black? LexVegas Oct 2018 #101

I think the poster is responding to white women on her timeline ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #102

The place to carry on Twitter beef is on Twitter. LexVegas Oct 2018 #108

Excellent OP. Ironicallhy, the same logical applies to the "drug" problem. It wasn't a problem still_one Oct 2018 #106

Black women and white women have being women in common. MineralMan Oct 2018 #118

That is crucial. I agree. But we do not have the power alone boston bean Oct 2018 #120

+1. nt LexVegas Oct 2018 #122

I think you're arguing against things not stated. MineralMan Oct 2018 #123

I don't think so, truly. boston bean Oct 2018 #125

OK. MineralMan Oct 2018 #126

Indeed. In this fight, let us put aside modifiers on "woman" libdem4life Oct 2018 #130

There's more than one battle, though, see... MineralMan Oct 2018 #134

Not referring to the battles...just laid them out in a post libdem4life Oct 2018 #137

Yes. Black women share one set of problems with white women. MineralMan Oct 2018 #139

Not putting "modifiers" makes black women invisible and silent EffieBlack Oct 2018 #174

+100 MineralMan Oct 2018 #215

Dear Ijeoma Oluo LWolf Oct 2018 #144

Dr. Ford came from the same race, class and privilege as Kavanaugh kcr Oct 2018 #146

It afforded her little protection because... MountCleaners Oct 2018 #151

It's more like kcr Oct 2018 #158

She has no chance in hell MountCleaners Oct 2018 #164

Do you think women from other backgrounds accusing men of the same have better luck? kcr Oct 2018 #170

It afforded her more protection that.if she weren't a privileged white woman EffieBlack Oct 2018 #163

People are in the streets because they don't want a justice seated who will overturn Roe kcr Oct 2018 #165

"doubt that we'd have seen as many white men in the streets...protesting if it been a black woman." BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #176

I'm always late to these parties..... Anyway, this is the 100% truth following the election one of Afromania Oct 2018 #147

THIS BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #204

Conservative women are not coming down off of any wall. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #212

All of this! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #219

We must hold on to each other. Empower each other. backtoblue Oct 2018 #156

Every single woman that I have had the pleasure of having in my life..... Socal31 Oct 2018 #166

We talk about women and men all the timr EffieBlack Oct 2018 #173

This is not a hill for me to die on, so I won't wade any deeper than this response. Socal31 Oct 2018 #193

Thank you Effie. Coventina Oct 2018 #175

Effie is one of the brave ones on DU bringing the truth.. HipChick Oct 2018 #203

Black women are the best, most consistent, voting bloc. joshcryer Oct 2018 #177

Case and point EffieBlack Oct 2018 #181

"In" jberryhill Oct 2018 #228

There's a reflexive denial going on when "white people" are mentioned. JHan Oct 2018 #202

Thanks for posting that! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #205

I think Republican strategists depending on a bump of support after Kavanaugh.. JHan Oct 2018 #209

I think 2016 will go down as a bigger fluke than 2000 BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #214

great analysis +++ JHan Oct 2018 #217

Interesting, there's been discussion right in this thread about what more black people can do EffieBlack Oct 2018 #207

It's predictable. White progressive women are doing their bit in a big way.. JHan Oct 2018 #213

And another thing...One of the ways white progressives can really help ... JHan Oct 2018 #216

K&R for visibility. lunamagica Oct 2018 #206

MARRIED white women. Apparently getting married to a white male turns your brain to mush. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 #220

Ima bout as white bread as you get. I know a lot of white GOP married women GusBob Oct 2018 #224