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BumRushDaShow

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171. I think Effie mentioned WHY the organizations, as registered
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:02 PM
Oct 2018

can't go that next step. I.e., they are listed as 501(c)(7) non-profits, which is this (from IRS page) -

To be exempt, a social club must meet the following requirements—

  • The club must be organized for exempt purposes .

  • Substantially all of its activities must further exempt purposes


  • If the club exceeds safe harbor guidelines for nonmember and investment income, the facts and circumstances must show that it is organized substantially for exempt purposes.

  • The club has de minimis income from nontraditional sources (i.e., from investments or from activities that, if conducted with members, would further the club's tax-exempt purposes).

  • For a discussion of the effect of nonmember and "nontraditional" income on the tax-exempt status of social clubs under section 501(c)(7), see Tax Issues for Tax-Exempt Social Clubs.

  • The club must provide an opportunity for personal contact among members, and membership must be limited.

  • The club must be supported by membership fees, dues, and assessments.

  • The organization’s net earnings may not inure to the benefit of any person having a personal and private interest in its activities.

  • The club's governing instrument may not contain a provision that provides for discrimination against any person on the basis of race, color, or religion.

  • The club may not hold itself out as providing goods and services to the general public.



  • https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/other-non-profits/social-clubs


    And in the above case, it restricts how far they can go... which is why the NAACP with similar restrictions as a 501(c)(3) org wants to change to become a 501(c)(4), which although also has some restrictions, it allows for some direct endorsements that relate to the mission.

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    I love how this is the very first reply :-) populistdriven Oct 2018 #232
    "Do not EVEN TRY to tell me...you don't know any white women who are ok with Kavanaugh..." oberliner Oct 2018 #2
    I know plenty Tree-Hugger Oct 2018 #19
    As do I. Texin Oct 2018 #52
    There are several in my family Politicub Oct 2018 #72
    You hit the nail on the head. Snackshack Oct 2018 #230
    53% of white zentrum Oct 2018 #77
    A majority of white women have voted for the Republican presidential nominee in all but two election CentralMass Oct 2018 #107
    I'm still wondering zentrum Oct 2018 #132
    The article was about women who vote. CentralMass Oct 2018 #142
    I get that. zentrum Oct 2018 #155
    Huge factor, many women in business & the private sector corporate world. appalachiablue Oct 2018 #168
    Irrelevant Caliman73 Oct 2018 #127
    It's not irrelevant. zentrum Oct 2018 #145
    This has been tried before, and who was the last Democratic President to get the white vote? JHan Oct 2018 #183
    Census data BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #190
    Or, Trump may have won bigger. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #236
    I do understand what we are dealing with. zentrum Oct 2018 #239
    Those 53% are just as misogynistic and racist as their husbands, fathers and brothers. brush Oct 2018 #227
    Completely agree. zentrum Oct 2018 #238
    Yep. And a small % of white women is a lot of women, so that's a lot of Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2018 #211
    Hi, Boo - I love it when you're you! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #92
    Thank you - I appreciate that oberliner Oct 2018 #241
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    Your last paragraph hit home UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #182
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    Thank you! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #157
    The AKAs and other black sororities and fraternities are VERY politically engaged EffieBlack Oct 2018 #154
    I appreciate your suggestion UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #160
    I think Effie mentioned WHY the organizations, as registered BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #171
    Thank you UncleTomsEvilBrother Oct 2018 #185
    Yes I am learning some stuff myself BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #195
    FYI - National Action Network NEVER endorses candidates EffieBlack Oct 2018 #196
    Their NPO registration won't allow it either! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #198
    Wait one second. Give black men some credit too. We are the second highest... brush Oct 2018 #242
    Dearest EffieBlack WhiteTara Oct 2018 #35
    Amen to that! Lonestarblue Oct 2018 #27
    Good point... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #7
    Wish I could K&R this 100 times. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #8
    Why? It goes both ways. Blacks are only 13% of the population, Hortensis Oct 2018 #189
    Yes. How dare we not show sufficient and heartfelt gratitude to our great white liberal allies EffieBlack Oct 2018 #192
    It's about time for the 53% of my white sisters who mcar Oct 2018 #9
    k&r ehrnst Oct 2018 #10
    We are ALL women. Why are you so hostile to anyone who isn't black? Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #11
    "rights fought for white women included black women." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #14
    Suffragists were abolitionists who forged alliances with black americans who like them were not boston bean Oct 2018 #18
    Apparently, you missed that big chunk of history when black men AND black women EffieBlack Oct 2018 #34
    I think you are pissed off at the patriarchy as well as I. boston bean Oct 2018 #41
    One thing that would be nice for white women allies to do EffieBlack Oct 2018 #45
    Effie we fight against it. We are in it. But what power do you think we have over boston bean Oct 2018 #57
    Who is this "we" of which you speak? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #60
    Effie, I am with you. I am not against you. But I am a we. boston bean Oct 2018 #61
    Please don't ask me what I think you can do and when I tell you EffieBlack Oct 2018 #66
    Effie you want me to fight idiots on D in this thread.. I've been doing that for over 10 years. boston bean Oct 2018 #71
    But you haven't done it in this actual thread. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #74
    I am trying to explain why I don't believe the OP (twitter) post is wrong headed. boston bean Oct 2018 #78
    Why are you working so hard to tell EffieBlack *you agree with her* rather than do a little work? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #81
    You asked EffieBlack what you could do. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #62
    Pretty sure I didn't say that. But a hell of a lot of them are. boston bean Oct 2018 #64
    What? In post 57? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #65
    Wow, very sorry for saying I and many have the same goals. boston bean Oct 2018 #68
    Don't apologize. Just call out the bigoted bullshit that's here ON THIS VERY BOARD. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #70
    I have for over ten years. Been pretty damn vocal. boston bean Oct 2018 #73
    Keep doing what you're doing. Also talk to other white women about... brush Oct 2018 #246
    Marching is easy EffieBlack Oct 2018 #75
    I am betrayed by them as well. I am not just some person who can convince people. boston bean Oct 2018 #82
    Then why ask me what you can do if you think you're already doing everything you can? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #85
    Ok you win. I am just awful. Have a good day. boston bean Oct 2018 #103
    Oh, please EffieBlack Oct 2018 #104
    I wrote to you thoughtful responses. If you want to attribute to me the power boston bean Oct 2018 #109
    Every response you have made in this thread has centered on you and the work you say you do. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #114
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    I believe we as white people... OneGrassRoot Oct 2018 #110
    Of course we are. But why blame the peolle fighting along with you to eradicate it. boston bean Oct 2018 #112
    There is no blame in this OP. None. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #115
    "Get your house in order". Seems to be blaming white women for not being able to control others. boston bean Oct 2018 #119
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    I don't think anyone claims that white women don't have problems EffieBlack Oct 2018 #197
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    Hate to do this but BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #44
    Thank you JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #133
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    Here we go EffieBlack Oct 2018 #16
    Of course melman Oct 2018 #29
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    +1 nt Tree-Hugger Oct 2018 #28
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    Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #23
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    The OP is a bigoted post. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #31
    "No one needs 'saving.'" WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #42
    Dear Black women: White women cannot save you. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #46
    This would be a valid argument or post if "black" and "white" had the same level of privilege in WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #49
    Thank you. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #48
    I'm clipping & saving this and other posts by the OP. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #38
    You are seeing things that aren't there from the OP, and projecting fears and issues you have all WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #43
    "I'm clipping & saving this and other posts by the OP." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #47
    The great thing about this bigotry against Caucasians you consistently claim... LanternWaste Oct 2018 #248
    You think "White women fought for our rights when no one else would?" EffieBlack Oct 2018 #22
    That would come as a surprise to the whites who died during the civil rights fight. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #24
    So, some whites fighting and dying in the Civil Rights movement means EffieBlack Oct 2018 #51
    OP's post is divisive NJCher Oct 2018 #37
    What exactly is divisive about it? Please be specific. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #59
    it divides white women and black women for no reason NJCher Oct 2018 #91
    How does the OP divide white women and black women? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #95
    Nailed it. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #149
    Truth n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2018 #233
    The interests of black women and white women are not necessarily the same. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #96
    Hello? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #240
    Yes the OP's post is divisive, by design, as is so often the case. Chemisse Oct 2018 #141
    Could the weren't-always-successful be related to Kind of Blue Oct 2018 #179
    * slow clap * n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2018 #234
    Read your last sentence over about 10 times nini Oct 2018 #54
    Black women have it harder than white women. Period mcar Oct 2018 #83
    Absolutely true. Chemisse Oct 2018 #150
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    Maybe you got only crickets because people were being merciful to you EffieBlack Oct 2018 #218
    Ooo, "merciful". I've been posting here since 2002, and have not bled to death yet. Hekate Oct 2018 #225
    If someone is "alienated" because of what a stranger writes on an anonymous online discussion board EffieBlack Oct 2018 #226
    Absolutely true Danascot Oct 2018 #12
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    No one's talking about enemies or parties. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #20
    Honeycombe8. Blue_true Oct 2018 #32
    EffieBlack does not need that kind of hostility sliding in her DMs. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #58
    Or, instead of telling me to shut up and go away because I make you uncomfortable, EffieBlack Oct 2018 #63
    Actually Effie. I like your posts. You can put me on ignore, but I won't put you on ignore. Blue_true Oct 2018 #79
    I misread and misunderstood your previous post. I apologize. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #87
    No problem. But you did make some good points that caused me to expand on. nt Blue_true Oct 2018 #94
    I was just on Twitter referencing this thread ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #136
    I'm afraid people are so clueless that they can't learn anything until it's a total loss. lindysalsagal Oct 2018 #25
    White women who feel betrayed were probably voting for Democrats anyway. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #30
    Yes back women have it worse, yes many white women are bigots. But what kind of power do you boston bean Oct 2018 #33
    "But what kind of power do you think white women have over white supremacists." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #55
    The point of that tweet is that white women can start going at the other white women nini Oct 2018 #98
    K&R PunkinPi Oct 2018 #36
    Zero wisdom in that tweet BeyondGeography Oct 2018 #50
    "Mean-spirited?" Really? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #53
    Yes, black women speaking the truth are often seen as "angry" and "condescending." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #56
    Indeed EffieBlack Oct 2018 #67
    Yup ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #88
    Condescending and so fucking naive. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #97
    I'm glad Christine Blasey Ford finally got off her duff and stopped waiting for black women BeyondGeography Oct 2018 #100
    Ouch. But, yes, "persuadables ... running for the (Republican) exits." SMC22307 Oct 2018 #105
    I think part of the reason these discussions get so difficult is because some people are talking WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #111
    The Kavanaugh situation IS about race MountCleaners Oct 2018 #116
    most black women believe dr. Ford. most white women support kavanaugh JI7 Oct 2018 #210
    The Enemy laughs uproariously as you blindly attack your own allies. PubliusEnigma Oct 2018 #69
    Not all of a kind are "our allies". BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #76
    Recommended eleny Oct 2018 #80
    Great advise Gothmog Oct 2018 #84
    This is exactly right ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #86
    Adding - I don't think white women JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #135
    Yes ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #140
    Funny that you don't mention Tim Scott. 58Sunliner Oct 2018 #89
    Actually, I didn't mention ANY individual. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #90
    The post is a call to arms to white women MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #93
    Recommend! BeckyDem Oct 2018 #99
    What about women that aren't white or black? LexVegas Oct 2018 #101
    I think the poster is responding to white women on her timeline ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #102
    The place to carry on Twitter beef is on Twitter. LexVegas Oct 2018 #108
    Excellent OP. Ironicallhy, the same logical applies to the "drug" problem. It wasn't a problem still_one Oct 2018 #106
    Black women and white women have being women in common. MineralMan Oct 2018 #118
    That is crucial. I agree. But we do not have the power alone boston bean Oct 2018 #120
    +1. nt LexVegas Oct 2018 #122
    I think you're arguing against things not stated. MineralMan Oct 2018 #123
    I don't think so, truly. boston bean Oct 2018 #125
    OK. MineralMan Oct 2018 #126
    Indeed. In this fight, let us put aside modifiers on "woman" libdem4life Oct 2018 #130
    There's more than one battle, though, see... MineralMan Oct 2018 #134
    Not referring to the battles...just laid them out in a post libdem4life Oct 2018 #137
    Yes. Black women share one set of problems with white women. MineralMan Oct 2018 #139
    Not putting "modifiers" makes black women invisible and silent EffieBlack Oct 2018 #174
    +100 MineralMan Oct 2018 #215
    Dear Ijeoma Oluo LWolf Oct 2018 #144
    Dr. Ford came from the same race, class and privilege as Kavanaugh kcr Oct 2018 #146
    It afforded her little protection because... MountCleaners Oct 2018 #151
    It's more like kcr Oct 2018 #158
    She has no chance in hell MountCleaners Oct 2018 #164
    Do you think women from other backgrounds accusing men of the same have better luck? kcr Oct 2018 #170
    It afforded her more protection that.if she weren't a privileged white woman EffieBlack Oct 2018 #163
    People are in the streets because they don't want a justice seated who will overturn Roe kcr Oct 2018 #165
    "doubt that we'd have seen as many white men in the streets...protesting if it been a black woman." BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #176
    I'm always late to these parties..... Anyway, this is the 100% truth following the election one of Afromania Oct 2018 #147
    THIS BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #204
    Conservative women are not coming down off of any wall. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #212
    All of this! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #219
    We must hold on to each other. Empower each other. backtoblue Oct 2018 #156
    Every single woman that I have had the pleasure of having in my life..... Socal31 Oct 2018 #166
    We talk about women and men all the timr EffieBlack Oct 2018 #173
    This is not a hill for me to die on, so I won't wade any deeper than this response. Socal31 Oct 2018 #193
    Thank you Effie. Coventina Oct 2018 #175
    Effie is one of the brave ones on DU bringing the truth.. HipChick Oct 2018 #203
    Black women are the best, most consistent, voting bloc. joshcryer Oct 2018 #177
    Case and point EffieBlack Oct 2018 #181
    "In" jberryhill Oct 2018 #228
    There's a reflexive denial going on when "white people" are mentioned. JHan Oct 2018 #202
    Thanks for posting that! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #205
    I think Republican strategists depending on a bump of support after Kavanaugh.. JHan Oct 2018 #209
    I think 2016 will go down as a bigger fluke than 2000 BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #214
    great analysis +++ JHan Oct 2018 #217
    Interesting, there's been discussion right in this thread about what more black people can do EffieBlack Oct 2018 #207
    It's predictable. White progressive women are doing their bit in a big way.. JHan Oct 2018 #213
    And another thing...One of the ways white progressives can really help ... JHan Oct 2018 #216
    K&R for visibility. lunamagica Oct 2018 #206
    MARRIED white women. Apparently getting married to a white male turns your brain to mush. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 #220
    Ima bout as white bread as you get. I know a lot of white GOP married women GusBob Oct 2018 #224
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