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hlthe2b

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49. NO, you are intentionally trying to state what you did not pose. It is disingenuous as hell

Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:19 AM

Nov 2018

I understand you were confused but you keep digging and I will continue to keep you honest to your actual assertion which is quite untrue.

In summary: YOU STATED: "No president (or his legal representatives) have ever been served with a subpoena" FALSE (your original post # 13)

Both Jefferson and Nixon were served. Both were served; both complied with release of documents (tapes) (despite Nixon's failed challenge to a unanimous decision in 1974 US v Nixon) to provide documents. Jefferson offered to testify, albeit in DC rather than requested Richmond.

You are very wrong and apparently do not understand that subpoenas can be for materials, documents, or testimony. They are still Presidential subpoenas, which you claimed: " "No president (or his legal representatives) have ever been served with a subpoena" False

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/22/can-the-president-be-indicted-or-subpoenaed/?utm_term=.0a264e3a5a12

https://www.nytimes.com/1973/07/25/archives/presidential-subpoena-upheld-in-1807-marshall-opinion-not-immune.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/opinion/trump-lawyers-indicted-subpoena.html

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Could RUMPS secret service block [View all] bluestarone Nov 2018 OP

It was an issue with Watergate, but they ended up serving them to subjects' lawyers. hlthe2b Nov 2018 #1

TY bluestarone Nov 2018 #2

A more interesting question..... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #3

The crowds in the streets outside the White House will make him change his mind about that TeamPooka Nov 2018 #7

doubt it.... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #9

all while televised live on TV? get real, not paranoid like the GOP TeamPooka Nov 2018 #10

remember those proud fools who were caught with sniper rifles on a roof in washington? getagrip_already Nov 2018 #12

I think you give them too much credit. They know they're outnumbered. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #27

Can't SS members who prevent Trump's arrest Progressive Jones Nov 2018 #22

You can't serve someone's lawyer without their consent Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #4

If the lawyer has represented the client in related cases or issues related to this case. NightWatcher Nov 2018 #6

There is no "case" pre-indictment Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #8

Again, the judge allowed the DNC to do so with Jared Trump's attorneys...per Jill Wine-Banks hlthe2b Nov 2018 #15

You could give notice in his favorite newspaper then maybe? Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #31

You have to serve someone personally in most cases Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #36

Good to know. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #37

DOJ could serve his personal attorney. That counts in matters like this. NightWatcher Nov 2018 #5

That is what I said in post #1... DNC did so as well with Jared hlthe2b Nov 2018 #16

in all seriousness... getagrip_already Nov 2018 #11

Remember, Dirty Donny* has his own private Goon Squad (R) Achilleaze Nov 2018 #14

It is a non issue. former9thward Nov 2018 #13

Not true: 1974 US V Nixon: after Nixon was subpoenaed for the Watergate tapes hlthe2b Nov 2018 #18

It is true. Please read the decision. former9thward Nov 2018 #20

It is true that the subpoeana was delivered to the President for HIS tapes, thus US v NIXON hlthe2b Nov 2018 #21

The issue is a person's testimony. former9thward Nov 2018 #24

Subpoenas can be for materials, documents, OR for testimony. They are still Presidential subpoenas hlthe2b Nov 2018 #25

Jefferson did not testify in the trial. former9thward Nov 2018 #29

Honestly. you apparently refuse to read the article. hE WAS SUBPOENAED AS WAS NIXON. hlthe2b Nov 2018 #32

He was subpoenaed and refused. former9thward Nov 2018 #39

Contrary to your false assertion, there have been two Presidents served subpoenas in history: hlthe2b Nov 2018 #41

You are incorrect on several points. First, Thomas Jefferson was subpoenaed in the Burr trial. hlthe2b Nov 2018 #23

The Nixon case was for hard evidence not testimony. former9thward Nov 2018 #26

It was still a Presidential subpoena in both cases. Perhaps you should read the article cited and hlthe2b Nov 2018 #28

Jefferson DID comply in Washington for oral testimony, not in Richmond as originally requested hlthe2b Nov 2018 #30

No he did not. former9thward Nov 2018 #33

He OFFERED to which meant that he accepted the legal responsibility to do so and validity hlthe2b Nov 2018 #34

Nixon was not subpoenaed for testimony. former9thward Nov 2018 #40

Contrary to your false assertion, there have been two Presidents served subpoenas in history: hlthe2b Nov 2018 #42

YOUR assertion was that "No president (or his legal representatives) have ever been served with hlthe2b Nov 2018 #46

Your original false assertion: "No president (or his legal representatives) have ever been served w hlthe2b Nov 2018 #43

Your original false assertion: "No president (or his legal representatives) have ever been served w hlthe2b Nov 2018 #45

you claim: "No president (or his legal representatives) have ever been served with a subpoena" FALSE hlthe2b Nov 2018 #47

You are deliberately trying to be obtuse. former9thward Nov 2018 #48

NO, you are intentionally trying to state what you did not pose. It is disingenuous as hell hlthe2b Nov 2018 #49

You said Jefferson testified. former9thward Nov 2018 #50

You claim: "No president (or his legal representatives) have ever been served with a subpoena" FALSE hlthe2b Nov 2018 #51

You need to join Mueller's team. former9thward Nov 2018 #53

I should. I would love that. hlthe2b Nov 2018 #54

I say let Acosta serve him at a presser. n/t Whiskeytide Nov 2018 #17

Now THIS i like bluestarone Nov 2018 #19

BOOM!! Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #35

No - it would be delivered to the WH Counsel. brooklynite Nov 2018 #38

Ultimately, it is not his Secret Service. scarletlib Nov 2018 #44

I want to see his tax returns... :) SimpleC Nov 2018 #52