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Alpeduez21

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30. I say Trump is the symptom

Reply to marylandblue (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:27 PM

Dec 2018

of the disease that is republican.

Still a simplification of the problem but an accurate reflection on the scope.

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The illusion that one person is our problem. [View all] marylandblue Dec 2018 OP

reform isn't the solution, the solution is the 50% of americans who sit on their asses beachbum bob Dec 2018 #1

How do you know how those people would vote? marylandblue Dec 2018 #4

Excellent point. And if the media they consume spouts the "wrong" way, they'll continue to follow it erronis Dec 2018 #35

Exactly. Rizen Dec 2018 #34

+ 1,000,000,000 Cary Dec 2018 #41

I believe that if we tackled the two root problems Dustlawyer Dec 2018 #61

I agree but impeachment will be required manor321 Dec 2018 #2

Yes it's really bad, but why is impeachment required? marylandblue Dec 2018 #7

Impeachment will not fix the problem America has... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #44

We should bring the crimes out into the open marylandblue Dec 2018 #54

Totally agree, Lawrence O'Donnell makes that point strongly pdsimdars Dec 2018 #48

He's a symptom for sure ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #3

Yes, the fact that so many people like it this way is a big problem. marylandblue Dec 2018 #8

Well sure, reform the system but impeachment should be FRONT and CENTER Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #5

Impeachment will not stop him, only conviction can do that. marylandblue Dec 2018 #11

Imprisoning for 2 or 3 years armed robbers wont stop them from doing it Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #17

Putting someone on trial through a corrupt system only encourages them marylandblue Dec 2018 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #22

Uhh, have a nice day...sigh Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #23

+1. Dump and his allies won't be incapacitated by a mere impeachment erronis Dec 2018 #36

I agree we should impeach if only becaue of the symbolic value of it The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #28

Nature will probably put an end to many of humanity's problems in the next century or so anarch Dec 2018 #6

One of current issues is our inability to plan for the future marylandblue Dec 2018 #15

This will be a Golden Era Boomer Dec 2018 #59

Without the 45 to 50+% of voters who are fine with the likes of trump, we wouldn't be here. Hoyt Dec 2018 #9

Yep. marylandblue Dec 2018 #12

The illusion that since he's not the entire problem, he's not the problem in front of us. Iggo Dec 2018 #10

He is only part of the problem, and only a symptom not a root cause marylandblue Dec 2018 #26

McConnell is worse for the country. Agree. Pence will continue the ravaging. erronis Dec 2018 #38

It's a lot easier to impeach a President than to change the Constitution. MineralMan Dec 2018 #13

Correct, we can't change the Constitution at this time marylandblue Dec 2018 #31

Yes. Our elections every two and four years are the final checks and balances. MineralMan Dec 2018 #33

The system shouldn't be considered "broken." gulliver Dec 2018 #14

Agree with this OP that things need to change and your refinement marked50 Dec 2018 #16

Great response and agree with enhanced maintenance. Been a long time since erronis Dec 2018 #39

Let me expand a bit because I've thought about this a lot... NRaleighLiberal Dec 2018 #18

The Indians viewed the world in the scope of seven generations. CrispyQ Dec 2018 #24

Seven generations vs. quarterly profits. What a great distinction. erronis Dec 2018 #40

How much of it is Russia instigating? lostnfound Dec 2018 #29

Yes, it's a bigger problem than just the US, but leadership has to come from somewhere marylandblue Dec 2018 #50

Nicely stated. Firestorm49 Dec 2018 #19

Yes, we have a system that gives grossly disproportionate power to a minority Maven Dec 2018 #21

I agree with everything you said The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #25

+1 for making me think. I'll have to do more of that (which is hard.) erronis Dec 2018 #42

That reminds me of Phoenix rising in a way, BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #51

Well I mostly agree with you, but individual action is never enough. marylandblue Dec 2018 #52

Democratic Party has minor ailments but the GOP is malignant to the core lostnfound Dec 2018 #27

I say Trump is the symptom Alpeduez21 Dec 2018 #30

"The anti-democratic politicians in Wisconsin, North Carolina, Georgia" BadgerMom Dec 2018 #32

We'll know if our nation is salvageable PeeJ52 Dec 2018 #37

Do we have any examples of countries that have reformed themselves from within, erronis Dec 2018 #43

Poland, 1990. nt trev Dec 2018 #53

South Africa. marylandblue Dec 2018 #55

That's a great example. Truth and Reconciliation. Still some bumps on the road. erronis Dec 2018 #56

yes, it is short-sighted and/or blinkered to think everything would be fine shanny Dec 2018 #45

good post. nt wiggs Dec 2018 #46

I think it extremely important that Congress revisit the sins of each and every enabler pecosbob Dec 2018 #47

+ 1,000,000,000,000,000 BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #49

Our educational system is in tatters UpInArms Dec 2018 #57

And when they do make to HS graduation... Pluvious Dec 2018 #62

Or, the other option of UpInArms Dec 2018 #65

He is the stark caricature of the problem. JudyM Dec 2018 #58

It's the gop being run by big business, and even more reason we have to impeach. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #60

And none of those reforms will stick or matter if we don't reform ecstatic Dec 2018 #63

You've got a point, it may be too late, but I think we are hanging in the balance marylandblue Dec 2018 #64

"The only solution is to reform the entire system." elocs Dec 2018 #66

Well, let's be real in a different way. marylandblue Dec 2018 #68

The struggle continues lunatica Dec 2018 #67