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Bucky

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33. It's a good, if shallow, question. And she gave a decent answer.

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:27 PM

Dec 2018

The problem is that race, as a category, is an inherently shallow topic.

Race as a historical problem that all Americans grapple with is a deep rich problem. It's something she could have explored and it would have offered a lot of insight to her thinking. Maybe the fact that she didn't explore & verbally perambulate the way Bill Clinton or Obama would have to offer fresh paradigms for our thinking tells us something about Gillebrand. I like her as a senator and she has the most anti-Trump voting record in the senate. So she's not unsubstantial. But she's not a paradigm shifter either.

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Kirsten Gillibrand worried that top three Democrats are white men [View all] Yosemito Dec 2018 OP

It might have been the TOP FOUR white men Chipper Chat Dec 2018 #1

Yep.......... MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #2

Unsupported conspiracy theory brooklynite Dec 2018 #26

Gillibrand has burned some bridges with her attacks on Al Franken Gothmog Dec 2018 #3

+1 Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #5

Brilliant idea. I would vote for him in a heartbeat over her. nt jrthin Dec 2018 #8

I really love that idea. He'd win. Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #30

I guess it has been at least a week since the last "I hate Gillibrand" thread... brooklynite Dec 2018 #27

Isn't this person in the top two? WeekiWater Dec 2018 #34

Sanders isn't a democrat. mn9driver Dec 2018 #38

Seems to be polling well in advance of our primary. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #45

Sure, but that's only because we're more mad at him for other things /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #39

If we get any more angry he is going to shoot right past Biden. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #46

and that the top three do not include her lol nt msongs Dec 2018 #4

Yeah, I think that's part of her problem Retrograde Dec 2018 #14

I'm worried about this as well. Kurt V. Dec 2018 #6

Weren't our last three nominees are not white men? Yosemito Dec 2018 #10

that was then. Kurt V. Dec 2018 #12

Concern is noted... n/t Dennis Donovan Dec 2018 #15

thank you. Kurt V. Dec 2018 #21

It's hard to say how this shakes out Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #7

The Horror!!!! The Horror!!!! borgesian Dec 2018 #9

Oh goodie a whole new thread to trash Gillibrand. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #11

If there is a OP about her there will be criticism of her. Freedom of speech includes the right to wasupaloopa Dec 2018 #18

She's at 1 percent in most polls BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #13

Agree. nt Doremus Dec 2018 #22

The polls are based on name recognition. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #31

Not exactly a revelation there. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #36

I imagine she would admit that. She is very bright and knows she has limited name recognition. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #37

she had better get to work then BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #42

She's right, but it's still early. cynatnite Dec 2018 #16

Van Jones asked her the question oberliner Dec 2018 #17

It's a good, if shallow, question. And she gave a decent answer. Bucky Dec 2018 #33

Agreed oberliner Dec 2018 #40

If the voters elect a white man via the primaries, so be it. Vinca Dec 2018 #19

After what she did to Franken she wouldn't Luciferous Dec 2018 #20

If she gets the nomination she'll get your vote. Fight me. Bucky Dec 2018 #25

Everyone on this thread will vote for the eventual democratic nominee. mn9driver Dec 2018 #41

Ha, she won't get the nomination. Luciferous Dec 2018 #43

Of course, neither will 90% of the other candidates... brooklynite Dec 2018 #44

I hope we have a woman President too. Just not Ms Gillibrand. jalan48 Dec 2018 #23

We could have Joe Biden get a Rachel Dolezol makeover. Then it's problem solved. Bucky Dec 2018 #24

in other worsds she is worried she may not win primary AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #28

As am I. Time to turn over the keys. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #29

Biden runs as one termer only with Kamala as Veep. Problem solved. Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #32

Ugh. What about Kamala for president and Joe around as Veep just for the kicks. Bucky Dec 2018 #35

She'd be the oldest Democrat elected president since Harry Truman. Celerity Dec 2018 #52

her concern is noted shanny Dec 2018 #47

So? That's who the VOTERS like at this point. OrlandoDem2 Dec 2018 #48

and she isn't one of those four Raine Dec 2018 #49

That is not what I took from this interview, at all. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #50

Everyone else involved in the decision to "oust" Franken, is likely grateful Kirsten gets the hate. JHan Dec 2018 #51