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175. It's obvious I'm not talking about anything

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Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:41 PM

Dec 2018

but the disingenuous attacks on our Democratic party over the last two years.

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Our most activated and reliable voting block believes it's time to move on from Bernie [View all] MariePinchon Dec 2018 OP

agreed.... chillfactor Dec 2018 #1

Bernie Is More Of My Kind Of Roosevelt Democrat PaulX2 Dec 2018 #14

Yes, mine too. whathehell Dec 2018 #58

Unfortunately, he's also the Republican Party's, the Kremin's and the Kochs'. Hortensis Dec 2018 #225

I don't think so.. whathehell Dec 2018 #228

Of course he did - PUBLICLY. I said privately. Hortensis Dec 2018 #229

As I stated earlier, whathehell Dec 2018 #230

What, we respond for all readers, not just the poster. Hortensis Dec 2018 #231

I won't repond to those who refuse to respect stated boundaries. whathehell Dec 2018 #233

I trust that Bernie is for a better country for everyone and that's a rare thing to find these days. The Wielding Truth Dec 2018 #63

true...but i dont see any thing different from the Dem candidates... samnsara Dec 2018 #103

Yep dembotoz Dec 2018 #73

While I agree with your assessment of Bernie, Eyeball_Kid Dec 2018 #80

Yep, we win with younger candidates...Obama, Clinton, Carter, JFK. brush Dec 2018 #174

Well said Paul. Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #85

FDR supported segregation Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #148

No, BS is too divisive and 3rd party. We have Cha Dec 2018 #153

I wouldn't consider the Democratic Caucus to be "the sidelines" guruoo Dec 2018 #172

It's obvious I'm not talking about anything Cha Dec 2018 #175

This is a really difficult one for me when it comes to Sanders. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #2

BS is 3rd party and he's too Divisive. Cha Dec 2018 #60

I fully agree with that. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #71

Who's divisive? guruoo Dec 2018 #149

EXCUSE Me!! I wasn't the one who went on Cnn Cha Dec 2018 #151

Yes, yes, yes. brush Dec 2018 #177

Thank You! Cha Dec 2018 #179

No, the problems he's addressing are the source of division, IMO. ... guruoo Dec 2018 #178

BS is divisive.. you can't dance around that. Cha Dec 2018 #180

Lol Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #158

So happy you came here to tell us that !!!!! alittlelark Dec 2018 #3

Me too, LOL. hay rick Dec 2018 #40

Usually whippersnappers lay low for awhile. nt Snotcicles Dec 2018 #78

Came back. n/t QC Dec 2018 #107

:) progressoid Dec 2018 #214

And now she's gone! QC Dec 2018 #240

Good. eom Control-Z Dec 2018 #4

As a Latina Bernie speaks directly to my needs and concerns. Autumn Dec 2018 #5

This could make an excellent conversation. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #7

Good question. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #15

All of our candidates offer something don't you think? Bernie keeps the focus on the important Autumn Dec 2018 #75

Let us not forget.. disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #79

I find it ironic that the top priorities for those women in the article are Bernie's priorities. Autumn Dec 2018 #110

They are not just Bernie's priorities. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #114

Sure Autumn Dec 2018 #116

Well feel free to visit her twitter feed and see for yourself. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #119

I don't get all my political news and opinions from just Bernie Sanders. Autumn Dec 2018 #125

Then post an OP. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #127

Gurrrrl... you rock! NurseJackie Dec 2018 #139

Hey! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #147

I asked you to address what Bernie offers, MariePinchon Dec 2018 #128

Bernie is a Democratic ally. Of course he will be on the same page with Democrats Autumn Dec 2018 #132

Fair enough. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #133

Don't lose any sleep over that. I'm an opened minded person and I'm not stuck on ANY politician. Autumn Dec 2018 #134

... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #140

OK. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #143

I'm sure if anyone wanted to take the time to research it, we'd find... George II Dec 2018 #142

If someone wanted to research they certainly could. Did I post that it was Bernie's legislation? No Autumn Dec 2018 #165

But in the real world it was Senator Murphy "*with*" Senators Lee and Sanders. George II Dec 2018 #191

Bernie's 'talking' attracts media attention to the issues at hand n/t guruoo Dec 2018 #183

Yes and all that I posted above was a small fraction of what he talked about in just the last week. Autumn Dec 2018 #224

Awesome!!!! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #184

Wow. 70 plus people made that decision, eh? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #6

These were top Democratic women of color. herding cats Dec 2018 #10

Ah so not any sort of random sample at all. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #18

At this point it's the leaders who've actually been following the issues and people. herding cats Dec 2018 #19

The people who support the party. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #22

So you think "leaders" should select candidates. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #28

The party base should have a say. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #31

Everyone gets a say. whathehell Dec 2018 #54

So Clinton Biden and Sanders should "go away"? Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #70

That word... guruoo Dec 2018 #204

Oh, really? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #205

I'll help. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #219

Inference is certainly not your strong suit. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #76

Inference wasn't required. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #137

only 90% of respondents are Democrats. scipan Dec 2018 #113

Otherwise known as the base of the party. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #20

This. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #155

70 super duper important people. progressoid Dec 2018 #47

This looks like a brand new organization (around july 2018) scipan Dec 2018 #115

Can also be read as 2/3rd of polled respondents had no prob with Sen. Sanders Devil Child Dec 2018 #210

I saw this earlier from the Editor in Chief of Mother Jones, Clara Jeffery. herding cats Dec 2018 #8

Yes, it was Bernie's problem in 2016 and it continues today. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #9

Yes, it was, and it still is one of his main issues nationally. herding cats Dec 2018 #13

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #21

Ok, that totally speaks to my words. herding cats Dec 2018 #23

Paul, no offense, but, GTFO MariePinchon Dec 2018 #24

"if more minority primary voters understood" betsuni Dec 2018 #25

Bernie never faced real oppo dirt sharedvalues Dec 2018 #29

There's already a video on you tube where trump calls bernie a commie... Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #72

Now imagine Daily Caller/Fox/Mercer with real clips of Bernie sharedvalues Dec 2018 #189

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #136

Yep. That rat fucker from the 1990s, Brock, pulled out all the stops. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #138

David Brock is the voice of women of color? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #144

Corporates slinging bs, while sweating bullets the whole time n/t guruoo Dec 2018 #146

women of color are corporates who sling bs? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #156

"Corporatist?" Really? Lol. Of course, to brogressives Hortensis Dec 2018 #234

Why is it so difficult to accept that candidate Bernie Sanders MariePinchon Dec 2018 #145

You're coming very close to "white-splaining" here. nt spooky3 Dec 2018 #32

Bernie is "completely tone deaf on civil rights issues"?? whathehell Dec 2018 #51

Yes. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #167

For excellent reasons.. A lot of the same reasons he Cha Dec 2018 #17

Hi, Cha! herding cats Dec 2018 #27

The responses to her tweet are quite informative.. disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #81

Clara seems to be confused. Only half of the women in this "survey" were Black. progressoid Dec 2018 #124

They are women of color. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #129

Apparently it needs to be explained to Clara... progressoid Dec 2018 #150

a bit fastigious, MariePinchon Dec 2018 #154

One should expect accuracy from the editor of magazine. progressoid Dec 2018 #157

Yes. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #162

"Fastigious"? It's technically a word, but I'm not sure you're using it like you think you are... Decoy of Fenris Dec 2018 #159

lol MariePinchon Dec 2018 #163

Yes it does. :P I promise, I wasn't picking nits, I was genuinely curious. Decoy of Fenris Dec 2018 #164

Oh, I hear ya. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #166

I learned a new use of a brick not long ago. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #169

We need to win. That rules out Bernie, HRC, Biden, too. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #11

Forgetting HRC is a bad idea. Since when are crime victims Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #62

Ageism runs deep even among progressives unfortunately. Joe941 Dec 2018 #64

The folks who want Bernie Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #65

And, there's people like me who Don't want BS who Cha Dec 2018 #182

Right on. Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #211

Mele Kalikimaka, CC! Cha Dec 2018 #212

Let's let the candidates speak for themselves. And then we vote in primaries aikoaiko Dec 2018 #12

I don't think this is trashing Bernie. herding cats Dec 2018 #16

Yes, exactly. And thank you! MariePinchon Dec 2018 #26

No, there's a pattern of bashing here realmirage Dec 2018 #33

Explain, please. herding cats Dec 2018 #35

This forum overall. Find any other candidate realmirage Dec 2018 #36

Them, who? herding cats Dec 2018 #37

Who else are we talking about? realmirage Dec 2018 #38

People need to be realist and grow thicker skins if they're going to engage in politics. herding cats Dec 2018 #43

If we assume Trump will be a candidate then he has more negative responses than Sanders. violetpastille Dec 2018 #39

You are correct. whathehell Dec 2018 #49

I agree with you and I didn't say this OP was Bernie bashing. aikoaiko Dec 2018 #42

Thank you. herding cats Dec 2018 #44

Well, I said what I said as a reply to the OP so its understandable. I could have been clearer. aikoaiko Dec 2018 #45

I can appreciate that. herding cats Dec 2018 #56

I wish you much luck and success! aikoaiko Dec 2018 #59

What a novel idea wryter2000 Dec 2018 #57

That's been an issue. herding cats Dec 2018 #61

I've ruled out Bernie and Tulsi during the primary. RandySF Dec 2018 #30

Crystal balls don't work. realmirage Dec 2018 #34

Not the biggest bernie fan but last time we fucked with the bernie or bust crowd mentalslavery Dec 2018 #41

I will support a . . . peggysue2 Dec 2018 #46

Yes! This! Well said! violetpastille Dec 2018 #52

Can we keep him on the team? Find a place for him in the administration California_Republic Dec 2018 #48

He's not part of our team, and he never was. He wants to have his own team, but use LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #74

I was a fervent Bernie supporter in the last primary and it hurt when he lost the primary... Still In Wisconsin Dec 2018 #50

Time for Bernie to pass the progressive baton off to someone younger aeromanKC Dec 2018 #53

Biden's 76 to Bernie's 77. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #67

so 2/3 of those women don't seem to have that problem with bernie then? nt msongs Dec 2018 #55

Hah. That's missing some important context. pnwmom Dec 2018 #69

Other context is that they got poll responses Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #90

So a Bernie-endorsing group supported Bernie. Woo-hoo! pnwmom Dec 2018 #106

If so, then they will do so quaker bill Dec 2018 #66

I think he should have moved on Dorian Gray Dec 2018 #68

Bernie has knocked other democrats and wasn't a full throttle cheerleader for Clinton Beakybird Dec 2018 #77

How much more should he have done in cheerleading for Clinton? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #83

oh, this is a mix of donors and party leaders? Well what the fuck do you know? They think that JCanete Dec 2018 #82

I hope you are not attempting to diminish the voices of women MariePinchon Dec 2018 #84

Did it sound like I was diminishing them? I'm saying that you can expect certain circles to JCanete Dec 2018 #88

She the People is ALL about women of color. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #91

wow...you totally misinterpretted what I said. I suggested that if you polled the entire JCanete Dec 2018 #93

You seem to be under the impression that She The People MariePinchon Dec 2018 #96

No I'm not, nor is that what I said. She The People seems like a diverse group which also includes JCanete Dec 2018 #98

That is not who She The People are. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #99

They are rightfully not comfortable with the lack of black female representation, or their JCanete Dec 2018 #102

They seem to have organized in July 2018. scipan Dec 2018 #111

Guess what?...Without "We the People" of the entire Party, whathehell Dec 2018 #255

Research ... Donkees Dec 2018 #92

Which makes in even more surprising that he was the candidate MariePinchon Dec 2018 #94

They didn't. a third of responders did. JCanete Dec 2018 #95

They are a big part of the panel. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #97

Guess you didn't read about the poll very much. scipan Dec 2018 #118

and? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #120

and? reread my post. scipan Dec 2018 #121

Please explain to me why a senator that was in office for 10 years has TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #171

I have previously, and what a ridiculous thing to say regarding the general public. JCanete Dec 2018 #185

Your insistence that Bernie was an unknown by the time of the primaries is ridiculous. TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #194

I have no such disdain for southern voters, and I think its safe to assume democratic voters are JCanete Dec 2018 #196

Bernie has a POC issue. It's been proven time and time again. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #201

. TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #206

Love it! MariePinchon Dec 2018 #207

You're welcome. TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #208

Right? I never knew that Freddy Mercury and Queen covered that song. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #209

Bye bye Autumn Dec 2018 #239

No it has not been proven. Even if the numbers from the election were definitive of where JCanete Dec 2018 #213

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Dec 2018 #216

and what would those policy reasons be pray tell? This should be interesting. nt JCanete Dec 2018 #217

Denial runs deep Gothmog Dec 2018 #227

why claim something and then entirely tangent about other issues. You said policy...you JCanete Dec 2018 #235

Denial is so amusing Gothmog Dec 2018 #237

State activists question inclusivity of Sanders Institute Gathering Gothmog Dec 2018 #238

Inside Bernie-world's war on Beto O'Rourke Gothmog Dec 2018 #276

Nearly a third of a non-random sample. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #86

The 70 (political operatives) people have spoken! Time to pack it in! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #89

70 real people certainly are better than online clickey clackey R B Garr Dec 2018 #168

Actually worse. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #251

Online polls are a joke. When you can vote multiple times R B Garr Dec 2018 #253

Most prevent multiple voting, although indeed Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #256

I went on several of those polls and was able to vote R B Garr Dec 2018 #257

Well then you should be relieved to know Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #258

It's not a "kerfuffle". It's just a poll that you don't like. R B Garr Dec 2018 #259

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #260

No bueno R B Garr Dec 2018 #262

I try this one more time. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #263

You injected yourself and you didn't understand. R B Garr Dec 2018 #266

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #267

Lulzlolz haha R B Garr Dec 2018 #268

I just thinks it's a riot that you think your Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #269

It was obvious you thought you were being clever R B Garr Dec 2018 #270

Adios, Independent Sanders. sarcasmo Dec 2018 #87

Sorry but millions of Americans are not moving on from Sanders. We need to figure out how jalan48 Dec 2018 #100

BS is 3rd party and too Divisive. Cha Dec 2018 #130

I LOVE Bernie hueymahl Dec 2018 #101

I guess we will know if that is the case when people start voting with their pocketbooks shanny Dec 2018 #104

Are we going to repeat our stupidity leading up to the 2016 election? Cary Dec 2018 #105

Ill let the primaries resolve this question Devil Child Dec 2018 #108

My grandfather came to the US from the Netherlands when he was 16 FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #109

I doubt that sanders will either release his tax returns or agree to be a member of the party Gothmog Dec 2018 #112

I think Bernie will run. Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #152

Time will tell Gothmog Dec 2018 #160

"or to promise to govern as a Democrat " MariePinchon Dec 2018 #161

Bernie Sanders is an Independent because he's to the left Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #173

He's comes from where the party's center used to be before guruoo Dec 2018 #187

That's not agreed upon. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #198

Name one civil rights policy he doesn't support. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #199

Lordy. I just went through this scenario with another poster. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #203

Bernie Sanders is the only likely presidential candidate Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #220

2016 LOL betsuni Dec 2018 #221

Oh? Will BS run on the 3rd party ticket? Cha Dec 2018 #181

No. That would guarantee Trump's re-election. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #222

Trump won't be running in 2020. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #232

That's what he is.. 3rd party. Cha Dec 2018 #236

I think the majority of Democrats agree. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #117

2 out of 3 voices in my head agree guruoo Dec 2018 #141

Honest headline: Poll of Democratic Insiders and Campaign Donors Finds Little Support for Sanders Rob H. Dec 2018 #122

Wrong! Women of color who wish to be heard. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #123

That's the makeup of She the People? Aimee Allison the founder is on Politico's Power List 2019. Autumn Dec 2018 #186

Aimee Allison and the other founding members are remarkable women of color. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #190

What complete nonsense. I did no such thing. Autumn Dec 2018 #195

What exactly was your point then? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #197

I commented on another posters post, that's the way these things work. Autumn Dec 2018 #200

Ok, so, defer and deflect? MariePinchon Dec 2018 #202

How so? I commented on another's post You make a false accusation Autumn Dec 2018 #223

Yes it is. katmondoo Dec 2018 #126

***FULL TAX RETURNS !!! *** uponit7771 Dec 2018 #131

I agree. Sparkly Dec 2018 #135

Amen! Anyone insinuating others are corrupt should R B Garr Dec 2018 #170

Approximately 70 respondents is your idea... SMC22307 Dec 2018 #176

I'm insulted that once again someone wants to dismiss the voices of MariePinchon Dec 2018 #192

Yeah. And oddly enough..... Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #264

It's Time.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2018 #188

Thank you. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #193

I was a delegate to the national convention and I have a very different view of bernie Gothmog Dec 2018 #215

I think JustAnotherGen Dec 2018 #218

A Bernie presidency still terrifies the establshment. zonkers Dec 2018 #226

Ah Marie, we hardly knew ye! QC Dec 2018 #241

Alas we knew her well! Autumn Dec 2018 #242

Many, many times. QC Dec 2018 #243

Ha! progressoid Dec 2018 #252

Speaking of time to move on. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #244

What happened to the OP? melman Dec 2018 #245

Why is that? George II Dec 2018 #246

Why is what? melman Dec 2018 #247

. George II Dec 2018 #248

Not sure what your point is here melman Dec 2018 #249

I know. I wanted to hear all about the POC struggling to live... SMC22307 Dec 2018 #250

That is fantastic! A livable wage should be a top priority for anyone. Autumn Dec 2018 #254

Did DU even acknowledge UNC's $15/hr in 2019? SMC22307 Dec 2018 #271

If it was posted I missed it. There not a lot of information posted anymore. Autumn Dec 2018 #272

That's true. The site has become very Tweet-driven... SMC22307 Dec 2018 #273

There are great sources to follow on Twitter and news hits fast there depending on who you Autumn Dec 2018 #274

Agree. SMC22307 Dec 2018 #275

I say we let the primaries decide. 74 women anti-Bernie is not much of a survey. Vinca Dec 2018 #261

Looks like the poster heeded her own advice and moved on. jalan48 Dec 2018 #265

CNN-Bernie Sanders Supporters should worry about Beto Gothmog Dec 2018 #277