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57. Advice: Your real target is the bystanders, not the MAGArons, if there are any.

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 08:58 AM

Jan 2019

If you're ever going to get through to a Trump fan, it won't happen in 30 seconds. They're having too much fun despising the things and people they like to despise, and love that he's such a public amplifier for them. They won't turn until something smacks them right in the face, and maybe not even then.

But you can pitch these "arguments" with the fan club to deliver the facts to bystanders who could be reachable. Don't bring them into it unless they volunteer, but just work at planting seeds where they can sprout. Which is usually not the brick walls.

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Please tell me the best way to trash Trump to a MAGA in 30 seconds [View all] Doodley Jan 2019 OP

Remind them that chumpy's businesses invariably failed Leith Jan 2019 #1

Good one, based on facts. elleng Jan 2019 #2

That last sentence is a very good point to make. Thank you. Doodley Jan 2019 #18

trump loser trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #19

Love the graphic. Wish I had it earlier to send as my Xmas card NoMoreRepugs Jan 2019 #32

Thank you. I have talked about his business failings, but the stock answer they use is that these Doodley Jan 2019 #37

The bankruptcies are his. He then switched to licensing his name, *because* he's a failure. unblock Jan 2019 #44

You need follow up ammo... lamsmy Jan 2019 #46

Thank you. Very good points. Doodley Jan 2019 #61

Wonderful graphic! It reminds one of a strange question: Judi Lynn Jan 2019 #69

I thought about this one but never had the opportunity. rusty quoin Jan 2019 #41

Thank you. I have brought this up. I have heard it repeated that Doodley Jan 2019 #64

deplorable answer to the bankruptcy charge : rampartc Jan 2019 #49

Thank you. Yes, I have heard them say that many times. I think the Doodley Jan 2019 #65

Tell them simply... Roland99 Jan 2019 #3

Tell them what a shithead he was about Baron's dog. The kid wanted a dog and Don promised he could Vinca Jan 2019 #4

Are you sure? ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #27

Read the Newsweek story. Vinca Jan 2019 #54

He "just doesn't have time" for dogs ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #59

The kid could have used him......... Historic NY Jan 2019 #30

"He is such a loser." dawg day Jan 2019 #5

All I have been saying is that rump's corruption is going to be so vast that faux opinion channel UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #6

You give me some hope and comfort with that prediction at the top of your reply. Thank you. Doodley Jan 2019 #38

I hate to say it, but I think you're going to come up dry on this mission. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2019 #7

Afraid you're right. They'll think the OP just fell prey to "liberal lies." Beartracks Jan 2019 #10

Thank you. You describe the situation of which I am trying to break through. Doodley Jan 2019 #39

Only one thing I've found SCantiGOP Jan 2019 #8

A winner, unless they've already been infected with the DJT prion disease. yonder Jan 2019 #21

Thanks, but they believe Trump would be best as he is toughest in standing up for America. Doodley Jan 2019 #40

Just tell them that a dome would be more effective than a wall. Initech Jan 2019 #9

I heard on Fox News that Colin Kaepernick supports the wall underpants Jan 2019 #81

Ever try going mad without power? It's boring! No one listens to you! Initech Jan 2019 #82

Say TlalocW Jan 2019 #11

I thank you for your reply, but they all say that the Doodley Jan 2019 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Jan 2019 #62

"Trump doesn't really care about you, he really doesn't respect you.That's why he lies to your faces allgood33 Jan 2019 #12

Good one! Clearly, it's true. He panders to people struck dumb by fear, but disrespects them. Judi Lynn Jan 2019 #70

That might be the best one stopwastingmymoney Jan 2019 #78

If He Can't Run a Charity, He Can't Run a Country dlk Jan 2019 #13

Thanks. I agree, but by saying that invites them to repeat all the Doodley Jan 2019 #43

Don't trash trump, trash them for being ignorant white wing racists. Hoyt Jan 2019 #14

Agreed Ponietz Jan 2019 #52

That is what I want to avoid. Insulting them will not achieve anything. Doodley Jan 2019 #72

So, how is you 401K doing? Lochloosa Jan 2019 #15

There's only bad news, I'm afraid. Girard442 Jan 2019 #16

You could trash Trump for 30 seconds, 30 minutes or 30 hours with no results. Arkansas Granny Jan 2019 #17

Work "Just grab 'em by the pussy" into your comments, and then call them a disgrace. Baltimike Jan 2019 #20

"You support tRump? How do you explain it to your daughter?" lastlib Jan 2019 #33

Americans should put our army where America wants. Not Turks, NotASurfer Jan 2019 #22

Thank you. You make good points. Doodley Jan 2019 #60

"Trump already grabbed your bump stock. He'll grab your gun next." jmowreader Jan 2019 #23

He tends to grab things..... Historic NY Jan 2019 #31

Since I'm in a very red state - akraven Jan 2019 #24

I wouldn't waste my time Raine Jan 2019 #25

Tell them that the First Lady is an illegal immigrant at140 Jan 2019 #26

The Helsinki Surrender. Qutzupalotl Jan 2019 #28

In other words, he's a Russian asset. Butterflylady Jan 2019 #55

Thank you for your great suggestions. I will include that in my arguments. Doodley Jan 2019 #73

The GOP get you financially anxious so you'll vote on emotion. Then you applegrove Jan 2019 #29

Thank you. You are right. They have been manipulated. They think there is a crisis at the southern Doodley Jan 2019 #74

Yes. He created the imprisoned children emergency and the dreamer emergency applegrove Jan 2019 #76

MAGA Man... myohmy2 Jan 2019 #34

Thank you. You make good points. I am sorry you face the same Doodley Jan 2019 #77

He told the troops he was giving them a 10% raise gratuitous Jan 2019 #35

I agree duforsure Jan 2019 #48

Trump was emphatic. "Mexico will pay for the fence". Huge promise. oasis Jan 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid Jan 2019 #45

Just say "Fuck that whiny grifter bigot." and be done with it. LuvLoogie Jan 2019 #47

I always ask how do I explain trump's beachbum bob Jan 2019 #50

ask if they are willing to $100 on it vlyons Jan 2019 #51

Piss on their shoes and tell them you support tRump too. IADEMO2004 Jan 2019 #53

"Two kinds of Republicans: billionaires, and suckers" sharedvalues Jan 2019 #56

Advice: Your real target is the bystanders, not the MAGArons, if there are any. JHB Jan 2019 #57

This eom KentuckyWoman Jan 2019 #75

Use numbers, solid numbers. Iterate Jan 2019 #58

Agent Orange. roamer65 Jan 2019 #63

Show him this and laugh malaise Jan 2019 #66

Trump lost the Cold War for USA Bad Thoughts Jan 2019 #67

My go to... Adrahil Jan 2019 #68

When they get done spewing thier shit Hotler Jan 2019 #71

Good one underpants Jan 2019 #79

Simply ------- Have you considered that you are being lied to? underpants Jan 2019 #80

I don't think it can be done they will dismiss anything you doc03 Jan 2019 #83

How about this? disambiguation Jan 2019 #84

Shake your head ruefully and say "I can't believe a thinking and literate person could be taken in LuckyLib Jan 2019 #85

Wait until they don't get the tax break they are counting on lunatica Jan 2019 #86

dont even try bubbazero Jan 2019 #87