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In reply to the discussion: The Republican Party is in full suicide mode [View all]certainot
(9,090 posts)fox is the cartoon cliff notes for talk radio, where the real unchallenged lying and repetition goes on but they needed to know how to coordinate with the russians at the state and fox never allowed the right to coordinate on the local and state level like talk radio does.
fox is part of the free speech spectrum. the rw talk radio 20-1 monopoly operates outside the free speech spectrum while its buzz moves the country 10-20 pts right
half the main fox blowhards started in talk radio, hannity still does a show where he can lie more and get more stupid and racist. they all know that their bullshit has already been or will soon be pounded into the earholes of 50 mil a week
the russians figured out years ago that 1500 coordinated radio stations basically following limbaugh were destroying democracy. they've been using it at least since 2008 when limbaugh withheld his support for mcccain until he picked palin, who was being courted by russians oil and gas as AK gov. that's when manafort was mccain campaign cochair. then the teabags, climategate from a russian hack in 2009, debt default, and so on.
fox got started 9 years after the talk radio and before fox that propaganda monopoly that dems still ignore gave republicans the house, hamstrung clinton, stopped single payer, did the groundwork for media and election deregulation, and so on.
hannity follows limbaugh, not the other way around.
the sad part is the left is doing nothing with the fact that talk radio and by extension fox are eventually doomed by artificial intelligence because it allows talk radio to be digitized and monitored and studied
- dems/left/liberals could shut rw radio and fox down this year if they stopped ignoring talk radio and did the minimum activity needed to inform the advertising industry that sooner or later they're going to have to start asking clients if they really want to advertise on stations that spew racism and lies all day and may increasingly be working for putin.
limbaugh and talk radio have been mentioned more in media the last week than in 30 previous years. continued blaming of fox will shift the blame back to fox and the talking heads will soon be back to studying fish without water, limbaugh will get his invisibility cloak back on, and by next election dems will be blaming spineless dems and media and getting trolled by putin into not voting because they allowed concessions on walls, trump justice, etc.
it might be different and maybe we'll get lucky if mueller finds stone etc were coordinating talk radio /trump/russian social media, but thats basically the pattern the last 30 years and more than likely the left will go back to ignoring talk radio as it attacks ocasio cortez and warren and castro and beto and makes them unacceptable for tens of millions based on unchallenged lying, blaming fox, and so on.
i didn't mean to dump this rant on you in particular, and i see more notice in the media of the part rw radio is playing, but fox cannot sell the big lies, it can't do the unchallenged repetition. it might start something but talk radio is the problem