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Exactly LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #1
Right? ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #3
Hell, professor, it was last week! Texin Feb 2019 #41
good point, sadly ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #52
+1 EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #76
I'm just not a fan of hypocrisy HopeAgain Feb 2019 #2
Neither am I. When you find a political system that allows for the drafting of perfect candidates LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #6
So that goes for Republicans too? HopeAgain Feb 2019 #13
Actually, yes. But, again, this is not about candidates for cannonization. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #20
Rs are much more savvy about strategy, while "good guys finish last" Dems keep getting trampled on EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #78
Asking that our candidates have no history of overt racism or misogyny is not asking for perfection. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #123
i agree, for the most part ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #129
Did the OP suggest that we should be hypocrites? There have been times... LAS14 Feb 2019 #7
Funny, I never saw a post like that HopeAgain Feb 2019 #15
I refrain from posting anything to suggest that Republicans... LAS14 Feb 2019 #21
THIS! LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #53
Thanks! Glad to hear from you!! LAS14 Feb 2019 #65
if the alternative is to richly reward a group of ultra-hypocritical ratfuckers ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #8
Ratfuckers who specialize in whataboutism HopeAgain Feb 2019 #16
Hypocrisy isn't taking a sledge hammer to fruit flies. There's wisdom in moderation uponit7771 Feb 2019 #9
Moderation or HopeAgain Feb 2019 #17
Moderation here would be an investigation by the DNC like Ellison. White privilege wouldn't exist uponit7771 Feb 2019 #19
Investigation by the Party? HopeAgain Feb 2019 #24
all of the minorities in VA you would hand into the tender mercies of the GOP ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #27
That's crap HopeAgain Feb 2019 #28
"we are going to become just as bad" - evidence for that? ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #31
Not to 100% perfection treestar Feb 2019 #92
Balcony. idahoblue Feb 2019 #127
These are arguments for political expediency HopeAgain Feb 2019 #132
We're handing over the minorities to the GOP? theboss Feb 2019 #45
I know, right? HopeAgain Feb 2019 #133
Of course it's harder to be principled but principled doesn't mean taking a sledge hammer to fruit uponit7771 Feb 2019 #32
+1 EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #80
Nancy has no business meddling in a state government issue. nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #138
that's an interesting way to frame it ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #25
White male privilege HopeAgain Feb 2019 #37
Again, all of the black people in VA who would get hosed because of this ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #38
Like I said HopeAgain Feb 2019 #39
And by the time we accomplish that change, my daughter will be facing a world in which LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #56
Hopefully HopeAgain Feb 2019 #58
You don't get it; McCarthyist purity witch-hunts never stop with the bad cases LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #62
Why does the consequence always have to be lose the office? treestar Feb 2019 #94
You've hit it. Lesser consequences. That's what I'm saying ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #96
It is a matter of how it is handled..... doompatrol39 Feb 2019 #4
I agree, the governor really handled it badly. ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #10
His press conference was the very definition of cringeworthy rpannier Feb 2019 #44
Byrd is a perfect example ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #12
Absolutely!!! Very well stated. And we'd better start doing it! Loss of job for any ... LAS14 Feb 2019 #5
+1. Why must the penalty be death for every offense? dalton99a Feb 2019 #11
"zero tolerance"? ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #33
Proportional to the "crime"? Nt spooky3 Feb 2019 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author NCChomskyan Feb 2019 #14
No we can't. Social media has conditioned us otherwise jberryhill Feb 2019 #18
Excellent useful term, "outrage amplification." Did you come up with it? nt LAS14 Feb 2019 #22
I dunno jberryhill Feb 2019 #49
I believe the Fairfax accuser Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #23
For me, it's the opposite, I believe him, not her CTAtheist Feb 2019 #137
It looks to me like that might be exactly what is happening. Skinner Feb 2019 #26
I'm actually surprised he has held out this long. ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #29
It's not as if it requires any effort jberryhill Feb 2019 #50
I agree awesomerwb1 Feb 2019 #30
I've been avoiding having any opinion of the Virginia situation In It to Win It Feb 2019 #34
A slight hypocrisy compared to the treestar Feb 2019 #99
Agreed. However, I don't think their hypocrisy justifies our hypocrisy. In It to Win It Feb 2019 #107
It's got to be weighed treestar Feb 2019 #112
A big difference that I think has been overlooked spooky3 Feb 2019 #101
I think it has been proven that students chose the pictures for their page ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #108
Where is this proof? I have not seen any re:Northam. Thx. spooky3 Feb 2019 #110
I'll dig it up - supposedly the editor of the yearbook described the process ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #113
here's one story on it ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #114
Thank you; I had not seen the comments spooky3 Feb 2019 #118
sure, republicans do that regularly to hold power bigtree Feb 2019 #35
your attitude takes a huge dump on the will of the voters ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #36
your 'attitude' immediately disregards that constituency bigtree Feb 2019 #42
I'm fine with having a better/perfect person inhabit a Democratic governorship in VA ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #51
that would be a consequence of the pols behavior bigtree Feb 2019 #57
imagine you are a VA voter, and you have to vote between two white guys ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #67
all I see is a whitewash bigtree Feb 2019 #73
What breeds true cynicism in politics DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #46
keeping bad people in our party in power won't change the republican party bigtree Feb 2019 #47
Neither will defenestrating every Democratic politician who has ever made a bad decision ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #54
we seem to have held up so far to the values people are demanding in Va. out of the elected Dems bigtree Feb 2019 #61
Have we? ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #64
either you think our party is morally compromised or not bigtree Feb 2019 #68
uh, no. I'm saying you don't know how flawed they are or not ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #79
If he is currently voting as a non-racist treestar Feb 2019 #102
'voting as a non-racist' bigtree Feb 2019 #109
What has he done in the past year? treestar Feb 2019 #111
lol bigtree Feb 2019 #115
what? treestar Feb 2019 #116
I'm not interested in discussing this with you bigtree Feb 2019 #117
Handing power over to the TRULY evil pubicans DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #59
that would be a consequence of these pols' behaviors bigtree Feb 2019 #63
It's not "cold"! ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #66
This is exactly how pootin and trump stole the last election DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #69
nonsense bigtree Feb 2019 #71
It had to do with divide and conquer DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #93
you have to make your own determination about what's important to you bigtree Feb 2019 #106
Thanks for the advice DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #120
you jumped into the middle of this discussion bigtree Feb 2019 #121
So did everyone else DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #122
'my capitalist underpants?' bigtree Feb 2019 #124
yeah, thanks again DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #126
cause and effect bigtree Feb 2019 #70
Ok then, find me some non-flawed politicians and I'll get right on it ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #75
amazing how concerns are reduced to political calculations bigtree Feb 2019 #81
uh. Duh. Political calculations are rather important ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #86
and you must wonder why those policies don't get implemented bigtree Feb 2019 #91
Was Northam implementing the New Jim Crow in VA or something? ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #95
Northam has an issue with truthfulness bigtree Feb 2019 #105
+1 DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #97
There's always a balance treestar Feb 2019 #103
What are their current positions on the issues? treestar Feb 2019 #100
I do believe it is time DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #40
I agree ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #43
It's up to Virginia and the voters there. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #48
Which politicians did more than "express an opinion"? brooklynite Feb 2019 #55
You can thank the advent of social media for that. defacto7 Feb 2019 #77
Thank you. One of the things that bothered me about the spooky3 Feb 2019 #119
medicaid expansion was huge and it took northham to do it questionseverything Feb 2019 #128
this. nt Baltimike Feb 2019 #60
Nailed it. "Democrats would rather be beyond reproach than in power." EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #72
What needs to happen? Tom Perez needs to declare an approach - a fighting approach? I say yes. EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #74
Well said. yeah, I worry that that kind of waste in pursuit of purity ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #83
I fully agree. EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #85
Walk AND chew gum? Are you mad? jberryhill Feb 2019 #82
lol ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #89
LOL! nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #136
Yes! There has to be some other way to punish them! treestar Feb 2019 #84
Yes it can, or should. shanny Feb 2019 #87
well said. ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #90
+1 LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #104
I would not be surprised if the Dems just let the GOP have the state even with Gerrymandering discus lancelyons Feb 2019 #88
IMO this can be pretty much boiled down to DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #125
I trust the Democrats are digging into Kirk Cox's past dflprincess Feb 2019 #130
There's ratfucking, hard core racism, then there's Duppers Feb 2019 #131
Bill Clinton was a flawed person too TheRealNorth Feb 2019 #134
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #135
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