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In reply to the discussion: So, I'm in Yosemite this week, talking to a Dutch Woman there with her family [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)120. You should get out more. <G> Let me introduce you to
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John Donald "Don" McLeroy (born June 3, 1946) is a dentist in Bryan, Texas and a Republican former member of the Texas State Board of Education...McLeroy received a Bachelor of Science degree in electrical engineering from Texas A&M University in College Station and his D.D.S. from the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. McLeroy formerly served as a first lieutenant in the United States Army.
Not an intellectual lightweight.
"When asked if human beings lived at the same time as dinosaurs, he said, That is my personal belief. Here. Sorry to direct you to a comedy site for the quote, but it seems appropriate. And you can listen to him.
Perry appointed him as Chair of the TEXAS STATE SCHOOL BOARD, and some others who believe this serve with him. They tried to force through a curriculum change to base science on "creationism", whatever that is, which would have impacted textbooks across the entire nation.
He was not re-confirmed the next time he came up for consideration as a member, He filed a lawsuit. He lost. His associates are still there.
There are at least tens of thousands of people who think just like he does. It is a part of a willful belief on their part (curious, since they insist on Doctors who study real science to treat their medical needs, for the most part). The important fact is that THEY ARE ORGANIZED, HAVE A PLAN, and PERSIST, often turning failure into success. Many, and you can hear them every day on the radio, say they would rather see the country in ruins if they can't get their way. (See: Congress). Many deliberately sought and sit in very important positions where they can use their wealth, or influence, or just the drive that being a True Believer can provide to capture your tax money and refocus it to their ends. A moral imperative, in their eyes. (I wonder if Democrats will ever get this dedicated to working people and the vulnerable again? And no, I don't consider paying 70 billion in subsidies to keep criminals in their seats at investment banks to be a Democratic principle. But I'm old enough to remember when being a Democrat meant the party was proud to insist that people have the opportunity to work, for a pony if they wished. Perhaps that affects my view of today. But I digress).
In his short sleeves, and collectively with others, they can potentially do more harm to this country than any 50 terrorists have ever thought of. So it might behoove people to check out their local school board. Maybe even run, whether you have kids or not. 'Cause those are the ones that are gonna be graduating from college and giving you change at Burger King. You want them to be good at what they do.
(As an aside - These same folks would like to eliminate discussions of racism, since that didn't exist with the dinosaurs. To accomplish that they want to erase the word, the memory, of "slavery", treat it as if it never existed, replace it with the words "Atlantic triangular trade,, whitewash it, as it were. Profiteers like Rmoney investing for the profits from jails full of black men, easier to ignore if one can re-write history, eh? But I digress. Again. Sorry, but these are SUCH interesting people).
There are more, and there are people who choose to believe this in positions that affect various aspects of our lives all over the place - remember, it's a moral imperative for them to attain those positions, so look around - google textbooks (hint: Virginia) and see what else you come across. Scary stuff.
Be careful, it might set your hair on fire.
John Donald "Don" McLeroy (born June 3, 1946) is a dentist in Bryan, Texas and a Republican former member of the Texas State Board of Education...McLeroy received a Bachelor of Science degree in electrical engineering from Texas A&M University in College Station and his D.D.S. from the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. McLeroy formerly served as a first lieutenant in the United States Army.
Not an intellectual lightweight.
"When asked if human beings lived at the same time as dinosaurs, he said, That is my personal belief. Here. Sorry to direct you to a comedy site for the quote, but it seems appropriate. And you can listen to him.
Perry appointed him as Chair of the TEXAS STATE SCHOOL BOARD, and some others who believe this serve with him. They tried to force through a curriculum change to base science on "creationism", whatever that is, which would have impacted textbooks across the entire nation.
He was not re-confirmed the next time he came up for consideration as a member, He filed a lawsuit. He lost. His associates are still there.
There are at least tens of thousands of people who think just like he does. It is a part of a willful belief on their part (curious, since they insist on Doctors who study real science to treat their medical needs, for the most part). The important fact is that THEY ARE ORGANIZED, HAVE A PLAN, and PERSIST, often turning failure into success. Many, and you can hear them every day on the radio, say they would rather see the country in ruins if they can't get their way. (See: Congress). Many deliberately sought and sit in very important positions where they can use their wealth, or influence, or just the drive that being a True Believer can provide to capture your tax money and refocus it to their ends. A moral imperative, in their eyes. (I wonder if Democrats will ever get this dedicated to working people and the vulnerable again? And no, I don't consider paying 70 billion in subsidies to keep criminals in their seats at investment banks to be a Democratic principle. But I'm old enough to remember when being a Democrat meant the party was proud to insist that people have the opportunity to work, for a pony if they wished. Perhaps that affects my view of today. But I digress).
In his short sleeves, and collectively with others, they can potentially do more harm to this country than any 50 terrorists have ever thought of. So it might behoove people to check out their local school board. Maybe even run, whether you have kids or not. 'Cause those are the ones that are gonna be graduating from college and giving you change at Burger King. You want them to be good at what they do.
(As an aside - These same folks would like to eliminate discussions of racism, since that didn't exist with the dinosaurs. To accomplish that they want to erase the word, the memory, of "slavery", treat it as if it never existed, replace it with the words "Atlantic triangular trade,, whitewash it, as it were. Profiteers like Rmoney investing for the profits from jails full of black men, easier to ignore if one can re-write history, eh? But I digress. Again. Sorry, but these are SUCH interesting people).
There are more, and there are people who choose to believe this in positions that affect various aspects of our lives all over the place - remember, it's a moral imperative for them to attain those positions, so look around - google textbooks (hint: Virginia) and see what else you come across. Scary stuff.
Be careful, it might set your hair on fire.
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So, I'm in Yosemite this week, talking to a Dutch Woman there with her family [View all]
Burma Jones
Aug 2012
OP
It's been speculated that the use of lead pipes in ancient Roman plumbing was one of
TheDebbieDee
Aug 2012
#150
Make sure before your children are old enough to decide that they have at least
coalition_unwilling
Aug 2012
#109
Most of my heroes are heretics! I really enjoyed the last couple of lines from that blog article:
jamesatemple
Aug 2012
#119
I remember reading somewhere that a lotta fed grants paid for that museum. (Yes we built that too)
DippyDem
Aug 2012
#26
no, no more than most go to fundamentalist mega churches just for laughs
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2012
#71
That's the kind of place you walk around with a one-hitter and laugh your ass off
snooper2
Aug 2012
#96
My response would have been American ignorance rivals racial superiority ideas of Europe.
gordianot
Aug 2012
#7
The problem with your comparison is that the things you want to tar Europe with
kestrel91316
Aug 2012
#14
Europe has a real problem with anti-semitism, anti-immigrant and just outright racism today.
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#53
Mainly in the past, perhaps, but not completely. Google "Right Wing Europe" sometime. n/t
whathehell
Aug 2012
#54
Go back far enough in history and everyone has something truly despicable to account for..
Fumesucker
Aug 2012
#15
The willful ignorance in this country has become a quality too many like to brag about!
snappyturtle
Aug 2012
#8
I think there's more home ownership here, as well, at LEAST until the most recent foreclosure crisis
whathehell
Aug 2012
#191
It is coming - just like in about 30 years or less whites in America will be in the minority
riverbendviewgal
Aug 2012
#192
Thank you...Everyone but one in my immediate family has been to Europe at least once.
whathehell
Aug 2012
#195
Our "standard of living" is high, your are right if you mean for the 1%. Quite a lot of people
nanabugg
Aug 2012
#44
The US has a tiny minority who believe man rode dinosaurs, and refute evolution.
Swamp Lover
Aug 2012
#19
"The rest simply ignore the science or find some other silly way to avoid the facts".
whathehell
Aug 2012
#83
A significant chunk, almost half, of Americans "don't believe" in evolution.
Arugula Latte
Aug 2012
#34
"America is the only country to leap from barbarism straight over civilization to decadence"
TexasProgresive
Aug 2012
#20
Really?...How about when we were "civilized" enough to help rescue Europe from it's "decadence"
whathehell
Aug 2012
#57
Unless you imagine racial superiority and genocide to symbolize "enlightenment".
whathehell
Aug 2012
#98
Thank the republican party for allowing the teavangelicas to take over their party.
southernyankeebelle
Aug 2012
#21
Look here, look elsewhere..........Actually, 78% of people believe in some version of a fairy tale..
Burma Jones
Aug 2012
#81
"Fairy tale" my ass...The figures indicate that a narrow majority accept evolution, with or without
whathehell
Aug 2012
#93
Nice try, honey, but hidden posts are only accounted for in 90 day increments.
whathehell
Aug 2012
#182
40% of doctors in denial of their own medical training, and with far more responsibility than the
whathehell
Aug 2012
#89
I think they believe in the placebo effect, and the placebo is "whatever works for the patient."
MADem
Aug 2012
#146
I always thought the only way a kid could ride a dinosaur was with a time machine...
MADem
Aug 2012
#147
It certainly tells you why so many Americans are so stoopid about "socialized medicine."
CTyankee
Aug 2012
#46
Bullshit...They're being BRAINWASHED by those with a vested financial interest in private insurance
whathehell
Aug 2012
#126
well, there are those who don't seem to know that "socialized medicine" is not bad!
CTyankee
Aug 2012
#133
Corrupt, decadent, empire in decline, yes; obvious since the 1970s at least. nt
bemildred
Aug 2012
#47
Yes, and of course, other countries never experience similar situations, right?
whathehell
Aug 2012
#177
More American believe God created humans in their present form than believe God guided evolution
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2012
#74
"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." - 2 Timothy 3:12
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2012
#88
The Right knows this and link themselves to the fundies every time they whine about the media...
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2012
#112
Not only is this a decadent thought process but so is the Ayn Rand philosophy.
Arctic Dave
Aug 2012
#103
I thought the same thing recently.. in order to be a glutton, you must close your eyes to the world
trailmonkee
Aug 2012
#115
My NJ republican bubba brother is very proud to know nothing about the world
riverbendviewgal
Aug 2012
#130
We have segments of America that believe science is a liberal conspiracy and view ignorance as bliss
ck4829
Aug 2012
#134
Absolutely & THINK of the systemic consequences of that fact, the CO$T$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ of ignorance!!!
patrice
Aug 2012
#140
Isn't it kind of rude to go to a foreign country and insult the people there?
BlueCheese
Aug 2012
#157
That's not particularly what Americans get called ugly for doing in other countries.
Hissyspit
Aug 2012
#166
If by "that" you mean arrogance, cultural insensitivity, etc., I'd have to disagree with you.
whathehell
Aug 2012
#171
To be fair, I doubt she would have said it if she knew 7000 people would read it.
Prometheus Bound
Aug 2012
#159