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WhiskeyGrinder

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46. I did, because more likely than not it's an expression thereof.

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 02:14 PM

Mar 2019

Talking about what behaviors might mean can help us tear down the institutional oppressions each of us faces to a different extent. It's not about pillorying these specific boys (although I support the girls' actions and the outcome) -- it's about building a better society for all of us.

It's common to react strongly to these kinds of ideas. After all, when we grow up in a patriarchy or white supremacy, anything that pushes back on it is going to look weird, subversive, wrong or just plain misguided. It costs us nothing to sit with new ideas, though, and can help us find clarity in what we do believe.

Have a good day!

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Teen boys rated their female classmates based on looks. The girls fought back. [View all] lindysalsagal Mar 2019 OP

This makes me happy. I had a severe eating disorder from dewsgirl Mar 2019 #1

paywall site - can you summarize the happy part? nt Locrian Mar 2019 #2

The young women got together and went to administration, phylny Mar 2019 #4

thanks! Locrian Mar 2019 #5

Oh, good! Iggo Mar 2019 #19

Same here caraher Mar 2019 #62

First time they went, they only gave the boy one day suspension. 40 went back lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #72

here Celerity Mar 2019 #7

Thanks for the link. I ran out of the alloted Kind of Blue Mar 2019 #12

clear your cookies mercuryblues Mar 2019 #22

Thank you so much!!! Kind of Blue Mar 2019 #23

numbers -- Shel Silverstein retread Mar 2019 #3

Ha! Good one. Kind of Blue Mar 2019 #15

Many closed groups do things like this unfortunately dustyscamp Mar 2019 #6

That's how Facebook got started. No one seems to remember or care. defacto7 Mar 2019 #31

It's disgusting when teenage boys... Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #8

Yes, shame on those girls for standing up for themselves. DLevine Mar 2019 #9

no, it is well and good tiredtoo Mar 2019 #13

No. What you imagined the girls did doesn't justify what you actually did. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #35

It's so tiresome having to explain this over and over again. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #37

So much this. irisblue Mar 2019 #38

yep eom tiredtoo Mar 2019 #11

It's toxic masculinity, and not hormones, that makes them weaponize their interest. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #18

A list from teenage boys is now "Toxic Masculinity " ? Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #20

A list that assigns and ranks value of girls based only on their appearance? Sure. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #21

Teenage boys ? Entitled interest in the female body ? Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #24

It's okay! Sitting quietly with a new perspective is something many people won't do, especially WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #28

That's all you see here? ismnotwasm Mar 2019 #42

You appear the only one arguing this particular tact LanternWaste Mar 2019 #25

Yeah well , any perceived defense of men... Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #29

You certainly could; I'm interested in how you would define it. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #34

Wow... Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #39

Hmmmm. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #40

YOU labeled what they did as Toxic Masculinity . Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #45

I did, because more likely than not it's an expression thereof. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #46

Thank you for your posts in this subthread. Habibi Mar 2019 #54

Thank you! WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #57

Male "developing sexuality" requires cruelty toward girls? That cruelty is just "innocent Squinch Mar 2019 #52

How dare you disagree with what those young women did! They have HORMONES! Therefore Squinch Mar 2019 #55

Ok...show me where I said I disagree with what they did ? Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #59

You called the calling out of those boys "toxic femininity." Hold your breath for that apology. Squinch Mar 2019 #60

Again I never said anything about what the girls did. Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #63

How dare you accuse me of toxic femininity! My hormones absolve me of everything and Squinch Mar 2019 #64

How dare those girls demand that they be treated like humans and not Squinch Mar 2019 #36

Methinks thou dost protest too much tiredtoo Mar 2019 #67

That doesn't actually make any sense in this context, but ... you be you! Squinch Mar 2019 #68

Does that mean rape and assault are OK, too? athena Mar 2019 #43

Read my other posts. Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #47

Be better than to excuse shitty behavior toward other people on the basis of hormones. Squinch Mar 2019 #53

This MrsCheaplaugh Mar 2019 #75

Sure you're in the right forum, bro? This isn't the "just boys in the locker room" Tarc Mar 2019 #82

Hmmm, wasn't this what Fuckerberg intended when he started Facebook at Harvard? FailureToCommunicate Mar 2019 #10

We had something similar way back in the 70s gratuitous Mar 2019 #14

I remember slam books from the mid '60s. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #76

Was kinda hoping they countered with a boys rankings list of their own aeromanKC Mar 2019 #16

I wish I were the editor of the school newspaper. Mister Ed Mar 2019 #17

Tons of entitled women-hating men in the comments. Squinch Mar 2019 #26

You know... Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #32

Poor dear. Did I say something upsetting to you? Want to get really upset? Squinch Mar 2019 #33

Did you finally realize that you might be in the wrong forum, son? Tarc Mar 2019 #83

My high school..... Pachamama Mar 2019 #27

Here's the truest thing in the article. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #30

I work with someone in his mid-40's who does this Polybius Mar 2019 #41

When I was junior high school many years ago djg21 Mar 2019 #44

You mean like something you would see in "Tiger Beat" misanthrope Mar 2019 #61

I just stopped in for the "GIRLS DO IT TOO!!!!" posts. tenderfoot Mar 2019 #48

I was prepared for a similar list from the girls as payback. MicaelS Mar 2019 #49

KnR ProudLib72 Mar 2019 #50

Absolutely Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #51

What you are labeling "normal developing teenage sexuality" made teen girls feel uncomfortable, WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #56

It's cruel, and it's meant to be cruel. But hey, apparently cruelty is just a part of innocent Squinch Mar 2019 #65

$50 says chemical castration will lead to a dramatic rise in academic performance ProudLib72 Mar 2019 #70

That's not normal treestar Mar 2019 #74

This is amazing Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #77

There's a big difference between the girls on the list in the article and the boys and men on the WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #78

Yes there is a difference Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #80

That is certainly a difference. Not the one I was getting at, though. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #81

Tiger Beat is boys they don't see and know treestar Mar 2019 #79

These young ladies are amazing Gothmog Mar 2019 #58

pfft. i would list boys w/ their numbers. see how they like being a 3.9. pansypoo53219 Mar 2019 #66

Why haven't these boys been charged with sexual harassment and assault? clementine613 Mar 2019 #69

Absolutely Rustyeye77 Mar 2019 #71

If the boys -- some of whom were technically adults, at 18? -- were in the workplace and creating a WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #73