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Eight myths about Assange [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2012 OP
This looks like the Swedish version of Fox News... n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #1
Yep. And OP has been their mouthpiece. nt HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #5
+1 alittlelark Aug 2012 #29
I don't remember any Fox segments called "Marx lives" but I don't watch Fox struggle4progress Aug 2012 #50
So much so, that they hired Julian Assange in 2010 muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #63
it's all greek to me egduj Aug 2012 #2
Technically, it's Swedish. That's why there's Google Translate. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #3
Well, well... *bated breath* What did it say? Don't leave us hangin', brah! freshwest Aug 2012 #17
It gave a Swedish view of the weird hallucinations Assange supporters have about Sweden struggle4progress Aug 2012 #19
Looked like a meatball recipe to me. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #22
I had Swedish meatballs last time I visited IKEA. Nothing to write home about there. Thanks. freshwest Aug 2012 #31
You shoulda had my late Aunt Edna's swedish meatballs hifiguy Aug 2012 #89
I thought Sweden was the place that hosted Wikileaks in the first place, as in this video: freshwest Aug 2012 #25
Yes, IIRC Assange went to Sweden in 2010 to talk about staging Wikileaks from there struggle4progress Aug 2012 #28
Really? and you know this how? grantcart Aug 2012 #49
I had to look it over to select and post the translated excerpt, didn't I? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #51
Right now, the site is down. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #21
Here's an excerpt - copyright policies prevent me from posting the whole thing. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #24
I don't see any hallucinaions mentioned. It seems rather bland. TY for the info! freshwest Aug 2012 #30
OK, I'm running Chrome too so I went there. TheManInTheMac Aug 2012 #79
The paternalistic GALL of the Swedish state bringing this case on, against the wishes of the women riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #4
Excellent post. And when you consider that the lawyer who inserted himself sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #47
Yeah, and the sheer gall of the police in America who bring assault charges against men who beat MADem Aug 2012 #73
Really? So now you are comparing consensual sex to beating up your spouse? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #86
Really? So now you're saying if one consents to sex once, then what? MADem Aug 2012 #136
i'd say if one consents to sex 3 times on the same night, once with the condom placed only HiPointDem Aug 2012 #140
"Grounds to assume...?" MADem Aug 2012 #144
yes, grounds to assume. she didn't understand she'd been 'victim of a crime' until after HiPointDem Aug 2012 #150
Go read up on PTSD. Your continued "blame the victim" harping is offensive and MADem Aug 2012 #152
OMG!! SO TRAUMATIC TO BE WOKEN UP WITH SEX AFTER FUCKING THREE TIMES THE NIGHT BEFORE!! HiPointDem Aug 2012 #156
All caps isn't helping your argument. No means no. That's quite a simple concept. NT MADem Aug 2012 #157
anna ardin, intern with swedish embassy in buenos aires 2005. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #159
Your link is not in English. You're arguing about something she supposedly said SEVEN YEARS AGO MADem Aug 2012 #160
no, it's in swedish, an evaluation of her praktik at the embassy. because she's swedish, you know, HiPointDem Aug 2012 #161
If you want to make your case, and not just pretend at cleverness, you'd provide a verifiable MADem Aug 2012 #162
Is that what is in the US too when the prosecution won't drop a case treestar Aug 2012 #74
The women didn't go to the police to press charges. Ever. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #87
So how did these charges come about? treestar Aug 2012 #94
The Swedish state brought them, after Wikileaks exposed war crimes and diplomatic cables riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #95
The women's own attorney says they still want these allegations to be investigated. pnwmom Aug 2012 #110
The facts on this are unclear, but Assange apparently offered to allow the JDPriestly Aug 2012 #126
If the facts are as Ms. W. claimed, he penetrated her while she was sleeping. She couldn't pnwmom Aug 2012 #130
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but there is such a political and international JDPriestly Aug 2012 #132
It wasn't "the previous night," it was the *same* night. She'd already had sex with him HiPointDem Aug 2012 #138
Why did they go to the police if they didn't want him charged? n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #78
They went to the police to get him to take an HIV test. That's it. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #85
Because he forced himself on at least one of them without using a condom. pnwmom Aug 2012 #97
She doesn't use that word so you have no right to assign it to her sexual experience riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #98
Sweden's laws determine what is rape according to the precise circumstances; not, apparently, pnwmom Aug 2012 #99
Impossible to bring a case to successful resolution when the women don't participate riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #101
Do you believe the state gets to determine if you've had consensual sex or been raped? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #103
At least one of the women described a set of circumstances which, if true, pnwmom Aug 2012 #104
SHE says no rape. So you believe the state gets to decide for her?? Really? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #105
Show me, please, where she said the sex that morning was consensual. pnwmom Aug 2012 #106
he seems to be of the mind that Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #109
I do, too. And you might be interested in this. pnwmom Aug 2012 #111
The lawyer does not say they want justice, it says they want the thing to end riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #115
The lawyer says they want the alleged crimes investigated. pnwmom Aug 2012 #118
I don't know how much further you can twist that thing... Chan790 Aug 2012 #120
I trust what the women themselves say riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #114
That woman cannot speak for the other one. But she is certainly right that Assange, pnwmom Aug 2012 #119
From your link: "The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #135
except that the night before she'd allowed sex with a condom placed only on the head, not the HiPointDem Aug 2012 #143
you guys all have the same talking points. she didn't refuse consent. read her testimony. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #139
Whenever the US wants to rid itself of a pesky but likable and outspoken JDPriestly Aug 2012 #129
The women's lawyer says they're "frustrated and disappointed" by Assange seeking asylum. pnwmom Aug 2012 #107
The lawyer does not say they want justice, it says they want the thing to end riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #116
Wrong. The lawyer says they want him to face criminal investigation, pnwmom Aug 2012 #117
The lawyer says a lot of things. He's under investigation himself, and it's not clear that he is HiPointDem Aug 2012 #137
Gee, that was a helpful link n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2012 #6
Only 8? Sadly disappointed with the Swedish version of Fox News. Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #7
... Aftonbladet is owned by the Swedish Trade Union Confederation ... and its editorial page struggle4progress Aug 2012 #34
"repeatedly cited for poor journalistic standards" HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #36
The Social-Democrats aren't from the Fox side of the spectrum struggle4progress Aug 2012 #37
Shit journalism is shit journalism Scootaloo Aug 2012 #58
It's Swedish opinion on Assange. We've all heard Assange's supporters explain that struggle4progress Aug 2012 #60
I don't see a recipe for crullers. Scootaloo Aug 2012 #64
Klenäter struggle4progress Aug 2012 #72
Noooooo!!!!!!!! Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #102
Sweden's case sure looks shakey. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #8
I'll make a wild ass guess here and say that I don't think russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #9
Very obsessed, and very persistent... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #10
I noticed.. russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #11
No, he's doing PsyOps for some org. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #12
Tsk tsk, it's against DU rules to accuse a fellow poster of astroturfing... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #13
I didn't know there were no astroturfers on DU. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #18
That's right. There are no astroturfers on DU. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #20
Are we supposed to click our heels or something when we repeat that? HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #26
Something like that... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #27
There Are Posters Here With 7000 posts In Less Than 6 Months HangOnKids Aug 2012 #41
That would involve a lot of posting during normal working hours HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #46
Some claim to be small business owners HangOnKids Aug 2012 #69
Not necessarily. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #90
^^^^Exactly What I Was Getting At^^^^ HangOnKids Aug 2012 #92
Bored, retired folks like me. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #131
IDK what that opinion really is. I'm an avid Obama supporter also. freshwest Aug 2012 #56
You linked to a foriegn language article? really? Are you kidding? grantcart Aug 2012 #14
I read it using Google Translate. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #15
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #16
Wow. You just keep pushing this site no matter how often it is exposed. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #23
... Aftonbladet is owned by the Swedish Trade Union Confederation ... and its editorial page struggle4progress Aug 2012 #35
None of which is relevant, nor lends any credence to your transparent and clumsy agenda. Next! Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #38
It has also been described as a tabloid 'with a Right Wing ideological agenda' sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #39
I don't remember any Fox segments called "Marx lives" but I don't watch Fox struggle4progress Aug 2012 #52
The extreme left and the extreme right are often hard to tell apart sometimes. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #53
The extreme left & right of the political spectrum is like the Pacman tunnel. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #54
Exactly. Reading about Sweden's extreme left showed me that we have to be sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #55
Agreed. For me. the sensible place to be on the political spectrum hifiguy Aug 2012 #88
Nah. Fox just says he's running for re-election for President. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2012 #70
Described by whom? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #61
It has been described that way by many people. I actually sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #91
Really? No shit! Hey...I got one...did you know that the moon is made of cream cheese? Zorra Aug 2012 #32
Thanks For The Chuckle HangOnKids Aug 2012 #43
So... Is It NSA, CIA, or GOP ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #33
Why it's against the rules to insinuate that a DUer is astroturfing or conducting psy-ops. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #40
Yeah.. sendero Aug 2012 #67
Is what NSA CIA or GOP struggle4progress Aug 2012 #44
I haven't the slightest idea... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #48
The Transparency Is Sublime... WillyT Aug 2012 #42
Your desperation to discredit Assange is approaching hifiguy Aug 2012 #45
I think it's fun treestar Aug 2012 #76
I can read Swedish. Can you? Quantess Aug 2012 #57
Thank goodness my translator is over for dinner. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #59
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! dogknob Aug 2012 #124
For those unable to use Google translate, another Sweden opinion, already translated muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #62
Kooky article. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #65
Don't bother clicking the link. sendero Aug 2012 #66
It is far-fetched to suggest Vattel Aug 2012 #68
It's your theory, perhaps, that Sweden should drop an extradition request whenever the subject struggle4progress Aug 2012 #71
An extradition request when there are no criminal charges is already unusual. Vattel Aug 2012 #80
The UK courts have dealt with that issue and have concluded: that the Swedish process is not struggle4progress Aug 2012 #81
That doesn't negate my point. Vattel Aug 2012 #83
It would be interesting to get views on this from Sweden and Britain treestar Aug 2012 #75
See the comments in the OP article. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #77
Do you read Swedish? treestar Aug 2012 #93
According to The Guardian, the women's attorney says they are disappointed pnwmom Aug 2012 #108
Oh haha - if you put "myth" in the subject line we might believe you Matariki Aug 2012 #82
A myth's a good as a smile, eh? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #84
Again? Isn't there someone else's character you can disparage? 20score Aug 2012 #96
You just keep on struggling don't you? GoneOffShore Aug 2012 #100
Did you see this in the NYTimes? pnwmom Aug 2012 #112
Thanks. I hadn't seen that. struggle4progress Aug 2012 #113
Oh, my. Indisputable proof! The lawyer called Julian a coward!!! Zorra Aug 2012 #121
There are many DUers claiming that the women don't want to press charges pnwmom Aug 2012 #122
This is the lawyer that represented a guy with mental who was confessing to 8 murders for HiPointDem Aug 2012 #141
And that brings up another angle in this whole sordid mess. cemaphonic Aug 2012 #125
lol. You've earned your dollar for the day. Marr Aug 2012 #123
Welcome to my Ignore list! Most idiotic OP ever - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #127
Sometimes that can be cute struggle4progress Aug 2012 #133
strawman Why Syzygy Aug 2012 #128
It's opinion from a Swedish paper struggle4progress Aug 2012 #134
why do you say they were "just two chicks walking down the street"? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #142
You didn't go there--evil CIA Jew hating anti-communist lesbian? Really? MADem Aug 2012 #145
oh, get a grip. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #149
I'm not the one with my hands around a bucketload of stinking tripe--you are! nt MADem Aug 2012 #153
lol. that's the ticket. keep defending that crap. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #155
I'm not the one doing the "defending" of the accused, here--you are. NT MADem Aug 2012 #158
We are Women Against Rape but we do not want Julian Assange extradited redqueen Aug 2012 #146
Katrin Axelsson was outraged back in December 2010 when Assange was denied bail: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #147
The Assange affair is not just about WikiLeaks, stupid (The Irish Times | Friday, August 24, 2012) struggle4progress Aug 2012 #148
You won't sway many converts by calling the readers stupid, Ms. McKay. Same to you, S4P leveymg Aug 2012 #151
It is the title of the piece--don't blame the poster, now. nt MADem Aug 2012 #154
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