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Grave Grumbler

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4. One problem is the "New York trigger" that NYC police have on their handguns.

Reply to FarCenter (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:45 AM

Aug 2012

A 12 pound trigger pull is not conducive to accuracy.

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All 9 people injured in shooting near NY's Empire State Building were wounded by police gunfire [View all] The Straight Story Aug 2012 OP

A terrible tragedy. I can't fault the police here. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #1

Are you sure... sarisataka Aug 2012 #37

I have a feeling the legal system will disagree with you. WinkyDink Aug 2012 #50

Or not. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2012 #55

This is one where I could easily be wrong. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #58

The NY Police amaze me by the number of shots fired and the few times the target is hit FarCenter Aug 2012 #2

One problem is the "New York trigger" that NYC police have on their handguns. Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #4

exactly. +1 kelly1mm Aug 2012 #10

12 pound pull? RC Aug 2012 #44

Go to the FBI and check national statistics nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #5

They train with "aimed" shooting and under stress resort to point shooting......which is natural.... RagAss Aug 2012 #6

This video appears to show that the police had time for aimed fire FarCenter Aug 2012 #16

They may have had time - but they lost the finite motor skills to do so... RagAss Aug 2012 #17

NYPD issues weapons with a 12 lbs trigger pull. The recommended trigger pull and most other agencies kelly1mm Aug 2012 #9

They overcome one training deficit (NDs) by introducing a feature that makes them less accurate. X_Digger Aug 2012 #38

I watched the video and they appear to fire those shots in an extremely short period of time. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #20

they've been spending all their training hours on pepper spraying 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #52

The gang that couldn't shoot straight. lpbk2713 Aug 2012 #3

I hope these people sue and get money to cover their injury. Logical Aug 2012 #7

Imagine If Bystanders Had Guns A Blazing otohara Aug 2012 #13

Big training issue treestar Aug 2012 #8

If the cops can't shoot straight mythology Aug 2012 #11

The majority of folks who carry handguns have no training at all.... RagAss Aug 2012 #15

That's the scariest post I've read in awhile. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #18

In Vermont anyone can conceal carry no permit needed cali Aug 2012 #25

Not quite. X_Digger Aug 2012 #39

If someone carrying concealed had injured 9 bystanders, Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #12

I would want to kill the concealed carry self-important moron. aquart Aug 2012 #34

I just hope the "If only someone carrying had been in that crowd" folks summerschild Aug 2012 #14

"highly trained law enforcement officers" Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #22

It's because they AREN'T highly trained obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #23

You probably are better trained and a better shot. summerschild Aug 2012 #29

Police on foot patrol should probably carry weapons with longer barrels and sighting planes FarCenter Aug 2012 #35

"Highly trained" is exactly what police are not. NYPD is toward the bottom end of the scale, but Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #41

Yet increasingly armed like the military. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #43

The sheeple like to be told comforting lies so they don't have to think about unpleasant things, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #45

apparently the shooter got ONE person, cops did the rest of the damage dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #19

Just imagine if there were 20 people shooting at the guy, instead of only two. baldguy Aug 2012 #21

If they weren't cops, odds are they woulod have done betetr obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #24

Yeah, you keep promoting the RW talking points. baldguy Aug 2012 #26

Except I'm far from a RWer, as people on here know obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #30

The TRUTH is those cops did better than the majority of people would have in the same situation. baldguy Aug 2012 #40

I think you've confused right-wing with dirty fucking hippie. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #42

. baldguy Aug 2012 #46

It's the DFH's that traditionally hate the cops. The reich-wingers love cops and eagerly Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #48

Prove It. (nt) Paladin Aug 2012 #27

I know I am a better shot than 27 police officers obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #31

More guns won't make us safer CreekDog Aug 2012 #36

And they were what, 8 feet from the guy? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #28

The reason most law enforcement agaencies won't obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #32

Lovely. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #47

For a real test, you'd have to have someone shoot a gun behind you without telling you.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #54

Exactly. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #56

Here's the thing though.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #57

That is why my local cops have to go to the range nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #59

Oy. aquart Aug 2012 #33

Oh, there are lawsuits a-coming! WinkyDink Aug 2012 #49

For all those 'they are terrible shots' people on this thread laundry_queen Aug 2012 #51

There are two main problems. justanidea Aug 2012 #53