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In reply to the discussion: All 9 people injured in shooting near NY's Empire State Building were wounded by police gunfire [View all]obamanut2012
(29,125 posts)32. The reason most law enforcement agaencies won't
As per what I have been told by actual LEOS:
1. budget -- no money for the rounds, training, range time, etc. Most cops are expected to do it on their own if they want to, like teachers have to buy supplies.
2. time -- there is no time to do this on regular sgifts, and making it means paying OT. See #1.
3. no requirement -- they don't have to do it, so why should they?
I am not slamming them too much for any of this, because of TPTB don't care, that attitude trickles down to th4 employees. It's a shame, not only for others' safety, but their own. They could get shot before they are able to properly return fire.
One of my uncles gets my cousin to clean his gun, because he doesn't know how to strip it down properly. A cop for 27 years.
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All 9 people injured in shooting near NY's Empire State Building were wounded by police gunfire [View all]
The Straight Story
Aug 2012
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The NY Police amaze me by the number of shots fired and the few times the target is hit
FarCenter
Aug 2012
#2
One problem is the "New York trigger" that NYC police have on their handguns.
Grave Grumbler
Aug 2012
#4
They train with "aimed" shooting and under stress resort to point shooting......which is natural....
RagAss
Aug 2012
#6
NYPD issues weapons with a 12 lbs trigger pull. The recommended trigger pull and most other agencies
kelly1mm
Aug 2012
#9
They overcome one training deficit (NDs) by introducing a feature that makes them less accurate.
X_Digger
Aug 2012
#38
I watched the video and they appear to fire those shots in an extremely short period of time.
Poll_Blind
Aug 2012
#20
Police on foot patrol should probably carry weapons with longer barrels and sighting planes
FarCenter
Aug 2012
#35
"Highly trained" is exactly what police are not. NYPD is toward the bottom end of the scale, but
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#41
The sheeple like to be told comforting lies so they don't have to think about unpleasant things,
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#45
The TRUTH is those cops did better than the majority of people would have in the same situation.
baldguy
Aug 2012
#40
It's the DFH's that traditionally hate the cops. The reich-wingers love cops and eagerly
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#48
For a real test, you'd have to have someone shoot a gun behind you without telling you..
X_Digger
Aug 2012
#54