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laundry_queen

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51. For all those 'they are terrible shots' people on this thread

Reply to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 06:55 PM

Aug 2012

On Canadian Tv they said most people that were injured were injured with bullets that had ricocheted off of the planters, or from fragments that had bounced off of other things. So they may have been better shots than it seems...bullets may have went through the targeted guy or *just* missed him and hit a light pole or planter behind him and bounced off and hit people.

BTW...whoever said cops don't have much training with shooting is right - SIL said that their training with guns and self-defense was pretty crappy...a lot less training than she expected when she got hired (not NYC BTW)

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All 9 people injured in shooting near NY's Empire State Building were wounded by police gunfire [View all] The Straight Story Aug 2012 OP

A terrible tragedy. I can't fault the police here. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #1

Are you sure... sarisataka Aug 2012 #37

I have a feeling the legal system will disagree with you. WinkyDink Aug 2012 #50

Or not. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2012 #55

This is one where I could easily be wrong. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #58

The NY Police amaze me by the number of shots fired and the few times the target is hit FarCenter Aug 2012 #2

One problem is the "New York trigger" that NYC police have on their handguns. Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #4

exactly. +1 kelly1mm Aug 2012 #10

12 pound pull? RC Aug 2012 #44

Go to the FBI and check national statistics nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #5

They train with "aimed" shooting and under stress resort to point shooting......which is natural.... RagAss Aug 2012 #6

This video appears to show that the police had time for aimed fire FarCenter Aug 2012 #16

They may have had time - but they lost the finite motor skills to do so... RagAss Aug 2012 #17

NYPD issues weapons with a 12 lbs trigger pull. The recommended trigger pull and most other agencies kelly1mm Aug 2012 #9

They overcome one training deficit (NDs) by introducing a feature that makes them less accurate. X_Digger Aug 2012 #38

I watched the video and they appear to fire those shots in an extremely short period of time. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #20

they've been spending all their training hours on pepper spraying 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #52

The gang that couldn't shoot straight. lpbk2713 Aug 2012 #3

I hope these people sue and get money to cover their injury. Logical Aug 2012 #7

Imagine If Bystanders Had Guns A Blazing otohara Aug 2012 #13

Big training issue treestar Aug 2012 #8

If the cops can't shoot straight mythology Aug 2012 #11

The majority of folks who carry handguns have no training at all.... RagAss Aug 2012 #15

That's the scariest post I've read in awhile. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #18

In Vermont anyone can conceal carry no permit needed cali Aug 2012 #25

Not quite. X_Digger Aug 2012 #39

If someone carrying concealed had injured 9 bystanders, Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #12

I would want to kill the concealed carry self-important moron. aquart Aug 2012 #34

I just hope the "If only someone carrying had been in that crowd" folks summerschild Aug 2012 #14

"highly trained law enforcement officers" Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #22

It's because they AREN'T highly trained obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #23

You probably are better trained and a better shot. summerschild Aug 2012 #29

Police on foot patrol should probably carry weapons with longer barrels and sighting planes FarCenter Aug 2012 #35

"Highly trained" is exactly what police are not. NYPD is toward the bottom end of the scale, but Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #41

Yet increasingly armed like the military. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #43

The sheeple like to be told comforting lies so they don't have to think about unpleasant things, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #45

apparently the shooter got ONE person, cops did the rest of the damage dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #19

Just imagine if there were 20 people shooting at the guy, instead of only two. baldguy Aug 2012 #21

If they weren't cops, odds are they woulod have done betetr obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #24

Yeah, you keep promoting the RW talking points. baldguy Aug 2012 #26

Except I'm far from a RWer, as people on here know obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #30

The TRUTH is those cops did better than the majority of people would have in the same situation. baldguy Aug 2012 #40

I think you've confused right-wing with dirty fucking hippie. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #42

. baldguy Aug 2012 #46

It's the DFH's that traditionally hate the cops. The reich-wingers love cops and eagerly Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #48

Prove It. (nt) Paladin Aug 2012 #27

I know I am a better shot than 27 police officers obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #31

More guns won't make us safer CreekDog Aug 2012 #36

And they were what, 8 feet from the guy? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #28

The reason most law enforcement agaencies won't obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #32

Lovely. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #47

For a real test, you'd have to have someone shoot a gun behind you without telling you.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #54

Exactly. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #56

Here's the thing though.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #57

That is why my local cops have to go to the range nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #59

Oy. aquart Aug 2012 #33

Oh, there are lawsuits a-coming! WinkyDink Aug 2012 #49

For all those 'they are terrible shots' people on this thread laundry_queen Aug 2012 #51

There are two main problems. justanidea Aug 2012 #53