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Bernardo de La Paz

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4. The OP completely misunderstands libertarianism, sets up straw man and knocks it down with fallacies

Wed Apr 17, 2019, 03:22 PM

Apr 2019

Then the OP proceeds to insult most DU members since most members are younger than the OP who styles himself as 1950s Democrat.

To start, Ayn Rand is not a libertarian. She is an Objectivist and there is a huge difference. Paul Ryan is not a libertarian.

It's very easy to set up Objectivists and call them libertarians if you want to make a back-handed attack against libertarianism and that is what the (old) article the OP quotes from. It's the old straw man approach and not reputable.

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"libertarianism" [View all] DirtEdonE Apr 2019 OP

I read a comment Ohiogal Apr 2019 #1

Yep. And yet today we have members here who identify as libertarian. DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #2

I've used that one many times... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #5

libertarianism, like republicanism, sounds more like a mental disease than anything else. nt DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #10

Libertarians believe no one lives downstream. WTF? n/t TygrBright Apr 2019 #3

Wrong. Greedy objectivists don't care about downstream because they are not libertarians. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #9

You seem to be a real defender of the "libertarian" cause DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #11

tRump is not a libertarian or even an Objectivist. He is a gordito. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #14

You write: "if you ever grow up". Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #15

I seem to have struck a discord with your unflailing "libertarian" mental miasma DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #20

My "mental miasma", huh. And "discord" does not mean what you think it does. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #21

Bernardo de La Paz ... DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #24

Nope. Not at all. Not one bit. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #31

Yep. He's the Lunar Bernardo de La Galt. Moonchild of ayn rand. DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #38

You are trolling. You are wrong. The character specifically states in the novel he is NOT a Randite. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #40

"libertarian" equals "randite" IMO DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #41

It's not disagreement. It's the WAY you disagree. DU members will read & know. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #42

LOL - how can anyone tell someone else how to disagree? DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #43

The OP completely misunderstands libertarianism, sets up straw man and knocks it down with fallacies Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #4

Yawn. nt DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #6

You're right-- the two are often confused but libertarianism is all about freedom of thought... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #12

"libertarians" in America today have as much to do with their pure philosophy DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #16

Many who call themselves libertarian have, but that's no reason to... TreasonousBastard Apr 2019 #19

ayn rand spread more misinformation about it than I ever could. DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #22

Two wrongs don't make a right. Stop spreading the disinformation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #32

Oh man. Defending ayn rand! DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #35

I'm not defending Ayn Rand, as all readers here can see. You are just trolling. Stop. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #37

Now you speak for "all readers"? DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #39

read the virtues of selfishness by rand with an open mind. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #7

I remember seeing the rand interview with Mike Wallace DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #8

Believe it or not, a lot of people have no clue who Ayn Rand was FakeNoose Apr 2019 #13

Could you get me an introduction to this "The Left"? TygrBright Apr 2019 #17

You have to realize, it's a "libertarian" chart DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #25

You'll have to ask a Libertarian FakeNoose Apr 2019 #26

It's what comes from trying to Igel Apr 2019 #33

Yes, many self-styled Libertarians are not libertarians (small ell). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #18

Libertarianism is like communism qazplm135 Apr 2019 #28

+1 Kurt V. Apr 2019 #34

libertarians: even dumber than republicans if that can be imagined. KG Apr 2019 #23

repubicans love libertarians DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #27

If we all take care of ourselves, what happens to Hortensis Apr 2019 #29

I too reject libertarianism vlyons Apr 2019 #30

I'll post them from the link DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #36