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In reply to the discussion: What Michelle Goldberg, NYT columnist just said !! [View all]Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)He's two months in - parading around saying he was exonerated.
I am trying to look at all sides, honestly. It just seems to me that impeaching makes more sense when you analyze all pros and cons.
If you don't impeach
Pros
- Some indeterminate # of people will NOT say - oh no, I will punish the Dems and not vote for a person because they are Democrats. (Not sure how many in the middle would think and vote this way though? I would think most people vote for people)
- We are not wasting time on impeachment when we should be doing the nation's business. (Although they are already saying this because of hearings in which we look weak because people and docs aren't showing up).
- Trump can't gloat and brag and say "see I won - I didn't get convicted !"
Cons
- Trump can say, see, there was nothing there, they didn't try to impeach me. (Although already saying this and that he is exonerated. Have had a Republican tell me just this point and have read this on sm.)
- Dems aren't standing up for what is right and holding him accountable. Win or lose. This makes us look weak. And like Michelle G said, what if he wins in 2020? We will look so bad for not doing something.
- Trump deserves to be impeached. There are 11 instances of him trying to get people to break the law. If we don't stand up against that - what will we stand up for?
- Trump does not want to go into the history books as the fourth president to get impeached. His brand is way to important to him.
- Impeachment will allow the general public who are so bombarded with info, to stop and listen to cogent, defined, cumulative crimes. Who knows, maybe even a MAGAhat would hear and think "duh, goll-y, I didn't know that."
- Impeachment will motivate the 10 million of us who signed the move on petition and make us so proud of our party for standing up for something that is wrong.
- Not impeaching rationale considered veiled and political and may not hold up much longer. Makes us look very indecisive.