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ancianita

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38. I use the title of a 1995 book by June Stephenson of the same name. This is before computers
Wed May 29, 2019, 09:58 PM
May 2019

Last edited Wed May 29, 2019, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)

and Internet research could broaden and deepen her numbers and research, so it needs updating in all the categories of her thesis: that men, violence incurs costs to everyone and not just the victims
-- witnesses, spouses, children, society, medical, court costs and social costs in dollar terms.

To me, her book raised a real problem for women in this and other countries. But her book wasn't well received by male reviewers, predictably. I still have it somewhere in my women's studies collection.

In a final chapter she attributes the crimes she gives (for its day) well researched numbers for, to massive sexism, beginning with school instruction that emphasizes men's roles in history; and societal inculcations about "manhood" that prevent men from feeling empathy for others, along with the business world's presumptions that income inequality is women's problem and men's inherent right, since women have had little to no say about the public sphere, which men took over, for millennia.

Some of her solutions: Involve men more in daily child care; reduce media depictions of violence and access to guns. One suggestion that stood out to me is that men should pay an extra tax for their costs on society, which could then be spent, for examplein providing help for troubled boys, or to rehabilitate prisoners.

The general gist is that what less money women make is spent on prevention and clean up of damage men do to them and others in women's sphere or in public. Women pay disproportionate taxes toward law enforcement funding, or laws that restrict them, laws that they have little to no say in.

That's a more detailed look at what I meant.

We're still dealing with male outrage and simmering resentment that women expect "mere equality" without even having to work to earn it.

And so the currents across continents that women leaders like Hillary, AOC, or Malala Yousafzai, etc., have to swim against.



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Keep Safe Alexandria MagickMuffin May 2019 #1
They have a legal (as well as moral) obligation to do so. Haggis for Breakfast May 2019 #20
is that BT or PT? Hermit-The-Prog May 2019 #30
No sarcasm whatsoever. 100% true. pangaia May 2019 #46
What a remarkable young woman. I salute her bravery to remain as outspoken as she is. Arkansas Granny May 2019 #2
It is truly troubling the depths of evil RAB910 May 2019 #3
the left is not getting her back re talk radio certainot May 2019 #36
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker May 2019 #4
That's so sad ZeroSomeBrains May 2019 #5
Real men threaten women on the internet???? NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #6
Uh, some men have been doing this from the beginning. The Gamer Wars explicitly went after women... Hekate May 2019 #16
When you have that many mob-rule people against you, you must be the law-and-order candidate ffr May 2019 #7
Glarring bit of non action Wellstone ruled May 2019 #8
This is so disturbing. StarryNite May 2019 #9
Freedom is Slavery ... Martin Eden May 2019 #10
You would think that since there is money to spend on 45's worthless, parasitic spawn to travel alwaysinasnit May 2019 #11
Stay Safe Sweet Lady, We need you! dem in texas May 2019 #12
Go shit in your hats, Grizzlies! Fritz Walter May 2019 #13
Kind of weird that they think that Kim Jong Un is an enemy. progressoid May 2019 #14
They should have AOC bobblehead day. zonkers May 2019 #15
Stay well and safe brave young woman. appalachiablue May 2019 #17
Good to see the minor league team refuting it and apologizing Cosmocat May 2019 #18
What the fuck is wrong with people??? Initech May 2019 #19
"People"? They're all MEN. Maybe a man around here can explain what's wrong with those who ancianita May 2019 #21
I'm a guy and I definitely don't associate with these low life scumbags. Initech May 2019 #22
Great that you don't. But why do men threaten the KILL women leaders, that's what I want to know. ancianita May 2019 #23
Well it's men in general doing most of the violence and the crime. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #24
But why. Is it nature or nurture? Which impacts the other more? I've studied and studied, but men ancianita May 2019 #26
"men are not cost effective to anyone" Could you explain that to me please. wasupaloopa May 2019 #29
I use the title of a 1995 book by June Stephenson of the same name. This is before computers ancianita May 2019 #38
Don't forget the various religions' role BigmanPigman May 2019 #41
Women are well aware of that. Mary Daly, Marilyn French and others have great histories of that. ancianita May 2019 #42
Nurture. This is something that is 'taught' and made OK to them. ck4829 May 2019 #47
Threatening to kill anything is historically men's work Loki Liesmith May 2019 #32
Weak men don't like strong women, she reminds them of their weakness. marylandblue May 2019 #34
Simple. She is a threat to their masculinity. Gore1FL May 2019 #31
We are not them and are no different from you in trying to understand them. Just because we have a wasupaloopa May 2019 #33
Of course I lump nonviolent men in with the best of men. But the worst are still not just women's ancianita May 2019 #35
Well that's not a realistic point of view I think. How do you expect to work on a problem wasupaloopa May 2019 #37
Who decided that? Have you ever taken a women's studies course? No one said the word "enemy;" ancianita May 2019 #39
Question: are you male? If so, why do you expect me to do all the realistic explaining when I'm the ancianita May 2019 #40
System justification, right wing authoritarianism, ingroup bias, and a helping of racism and sexism ck4829 May 2019 #50
I want her to be President Of The United States. warmfeet May 2019 #25
A bit more this, a bit less that. Really? Are we going to keep talking this way about women leaders? ancianita May 2019 #27
I don't think he meant it like that. AOC is absolutely outstanding. PatrickforO May 2019 #44
We all need the Green New Deal NOW; it's why I'm for Inslee. AOC had me at the dance video. ancianita May 2019 #45
Yeah, that dance vid was great. PatrickforO May 2019 #52
She's not old enough to run. BannonsLiver May 2019 #53
Of course. People need not worry about her growth or age, nor want her to run for now. They ancianita May 2019 #54
K BannonsLiver May 2019 #56
+1 ck4829 May 2019 #49
Rim Job started free republic in Fresno. I was there over the weekend. It is looking better with wasupaloopa May 2019 #28
Intellectually lazy, low info voters will probably doom our republic in the end. BannonsLiver May 2019 #55
AOC is wonderful - the future of our party. PatrickforO May 2019 #43
K&R ck4829 May 2019 #48
I Love AOC, and Would Like Her to Be President Someday, Too panfluteman May 2019 #51
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