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TwilightZone

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13. No, they didn't.

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 07:49 AM

Jun 2019

It requires an official declaration by the United States. Neither part of that has been satisfied.

It's not complicated. We want it to be treason, but it pretty clearly isn't. That doesn't stop people who should know better (former Congresspeople, for example) from proclaiming it treason anyway.

Facts are stubborn things. - John Adams

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M. Nance, The President of the United States may have committed treason [View all] Botany Jun 2019 OP

Its about fucking time Pachamama Jun 2019 #1

May? malaise Jun 2019 #2

I'm with you, M ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #56

Trump sees it as a winning strategy. He used Russian intelligence assets before with no problems... UCmeNdc Jun 2019 #3

That is true of the entire Republican Party. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #5

Exactly. triron Jun 2019 #22

I can't see bringing action for being WILLING to commit a crime, better to prove he DID.(nt) thesquanderer Jun 2019 #4

Important point. Mister Ed Jun 2019 #8

Treason, legally speaking, also requires a declared enemy. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #14

Here is the definition of treason from Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2019 #19

So how is what Trump did not treason according to Art. 3? triron Jun 2019 #23

Yup! Botany Jun 2019 #29

I still stand by my post 23 regarding obsolescence of 'declared war' against Russia. triron Jun 2019 #34

I think a good case can be made that Putin/Russia is in a war with the west right now. Botany Jun 2019 #37

There is no (current) option for criminal accountability anyway. Impeachment is needed. lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #20

I see it as more of a confession for past crimes than the "intention" to commit a future crime sop Jun 2019 #26

I saw it as both things. He blathered on about his whole criminal life, lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #32

Yep. triron Jun 2019 #35

Trump looked like the Capo di Tutti Capi sneering, "our family don't talk to the feds" sop Jun 2019 #38

That's exactly how I saw it. lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #40

And on the same day Don Jr. went before Burr's Senate Intelligence Committee sop Jun 2019 #42

he asked russia to help him right on national TV & got away with it yaesu Jun 2019 #6

AND he clearly telegraphed that we need to be watching NORWAY for that interference! FailureToCommunicate Jun 2019 #7

Damn Sami People! Botany Jun 2019 #11

Baltimike: The Pope may be Catholic. nt Baltimike Jun 2019 #9

It's (still) not treason. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #10

Russia declared itself as an enemy to America when they attacked our democracy and rigged the ... Botany Jun 2019 #12

No, they didn't. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #13

The Americans who helped Russia's attack are no different then if we had Americans .... Botany Jun 2019 #15

You're intentionally missing the point. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #58

In my fevered brain it makes sense to me and since I am the one I spend the most time with .... Botany Jun 2019 #61

Makes sense to me as well. triron Jun 2019 #62

See my post 23 above. triron Jun 2019 #24

May, may???? Perseus Jun 2019 #16

Trump has publicly admitted to knowing about the "Russian help" in 2016 Botany Jun 2019 #18

Impeachment inquiries please bdamomma Jun 2019 #17

No. Treason is a war time only crime Cicada Jun 2019 #21

See my post 23 above. triron Jun 2019 #25

You can tell every poster ScratchCat Jun 2019 #28

it's treason Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2019 #51

Yeah it should be even more severe. Like sentencing him to exile in space. triron Jun 2019 #52

The meaning of enemy as written in the constitution is someone at real war with the US Cicada Jun 2019 #33

OK then the constitution is obsolete on this point. It needs to be amended. triron Jun 2019 #36

Think about why our founders defined treason narrowly Cicada Jun 2019 #39

I honestly don't get the relevancy of your post to the argument I am making. Sorry. triron Jun 2019 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #30

Exactly. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #59

knr triron Jun 2019 #27

It's time to begin amping up the pressure on the recalcitrant holdouts (nt) Pluvious Jun 2019 #31

He cheated... 1democracy Jun 2019 #41

There might come a time, when our only hope is... Pluvious Jun 2019 #43

Kick dalton99a Jun 2019 #44

kick for visibility triron Jun 2019 #45

kick again triron Jun 2019 #47

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knr triron Jun 2019 #49

kick for visibility triron Jun 2019 #50

Keeping it kicked. Guilded Lilly Jun 2019 #53

+1000 triron Jun 2019 #54

knr triron Jun 2019 #55

kick again triron Jun 2019 #57

Trump the Traitor Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #60