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140. Yeah that's a pretty huge leap

Tue Aug 28, 2012, 07:38 PM

Aug 2012

You can make anyone seem ominous by saying they haven't done X "yet".

There are plenty of people who say "yeah, Obama hasn't started rounding up white people in to concentration camps . . . YET!".

Doesn't make it a meaningful statement though.

And the burnings ended a long time ago. Muslims in 2012 are stoning homosexuals to death but they don't get this treatment on here.

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Would you sit quietly as a leader of the KKK gave the benediction at the Democratic Convention? [View all] Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 OP

They should have a band play the Penn State fight song KamaAina Aug 2012 #1

And then have somebody sing "Sweet Caroline" Ken Burch Aug 2012 #158

This really bothers me. nt FLyellowdog Aug 2012 #2

This is a political decision... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #3

So you are claiming that this pleases Catholics? They are glad to be defined as bigots? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #10

No, but he is a vocal and well known speaker for Catholics, Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #18

So again, you claim that Democratic Catholics are not impressed with Biden being Catholic and Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #21

Do not write things between the lines of my posts. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #36

I don't think that was the intent.... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #20

So your answer to the OP's question is yes, you would just stand aside and watch...but Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #23

My answer to the OP's question... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #28

The KKK wasn't invited to speak Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #56

Ahem.... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #69

Don't throw that bullshit LIST at me. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #73

You don't really have many friends, do you Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #81

There you go again. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #90

Jesus H. Christ Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #161

ah, i see you've met Pab. dionysus Aug 2012 #165

Just what would you like him to do? Sekhmets Daughter Aug 2012 #206

He can start by Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #208

LGBT families are not treated as families and to say so is just cheap rhetoric Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #177

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No...you stand and laugh. Because that asshole couldn't stop gay marriage in his msanthrope Aug 2012 #29

NO! FatIrishBastard Aug 2012 #45

That's not flawed logic, if it was you'd challenge it rather than foisting an empty insult Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #178

You are so clever, FatIrishBastard Aug 2012 #210

You are correct. /nt still_one Aug 2012 #11

"......politics in America The Wizard Aug 2012 #51

If I wrote your statement, I would change "Kind of like" to "Exactly like" Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #53

There are some nasty bigoted posts in this thread Marrah_G Aug 2012 #172

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+ 1 (nt) rbnyc Aug 2012 #14

That's like saying of a Muslim leader, "doesn't he have a building to bomb"? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #48

But the thread isn't about a Muslim, now is it? Raster Aug 2012 #52

+1 Mmm_Bacon Aug 2012 #86

+2 PSUDem Aug 2012 #180

Another post to add to the mix.... Raster Aug 2012 #95

Oh for fuck's sake. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #184

The Third Way Obama crowd is simply not content unless they deliver an insult to gay people. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #5

If Republicans had a preacher against interracial marriage in a place of honor . . . Prism Aug 2012 #6

Agreed. That's just wrong. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #7

I will tell you why it doesn't matter, because the actions still_one Aug 2012 #8

Are you saying this is merely pandering to cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #13

Unfortunately yes. I don't like it, but it would do more damage now still_one Aug 2012 #27

Dolan offered..putting them in the position of refusing. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #32

Iam not sure what you mean dolan offered, however, still_one Aug 2012 #43

I would not classify Catholics with fundy christians LynneSin Aug 2012 #39

What actions do you mean? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #17

I am saying I believe it is too late to resind the invite. The cardinal still_one Aug 2012 #30

Casey is not as anti-choice as we would try to make him out to be LynneSin Aug 2012 #40

He is anti-choice and wants roe v wade to be overturned. He was none too happy that the ACA allowed still_one Aug 2012 #106

No, that is not what you said at all. Let me quote you: Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #174

I don't think some can understand... NCTraveler Aug 2012 #37

I think so-called religion should not even be a part of the ceremony, but isn't it still_one Aug 2012 #98

I would not mind if it were not a part of the ceremony. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #187

I agree. Alduin Aug 2012 #9

No, you have it backwards. This is a way to piss off Dolan. Recursion Aug 2012 #12

Absolutely. nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #16

So it's all about this one guy? The insult to millions and the ugly message sent don't matter Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #19

No...it's about avoiding a pissing match. Dolan asked since he was doing the RNC msanthrope Aug 2012 #26

Avoiding a pissing match? We are not talking about a pissing match we are talking about sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #126

Wait. So he didn't want to do it, but he asked to do it, and allowing him to do it insults him? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #179

Okay, I hadn't heard this, is there a link somewhere? Lionessa Aug 2012 #34

Exactly. nt pnwmom Aug 2012 #44

Dolan. Where have I heard that name before? Erose999 Aug 2012 #15

The "centrists" and triangulators now have their spot within the party Doctor_J Aug 2012 #22

No way. Not this time. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #60

I have no problem with this whatsoever Gman Aug 2012 #24

Prayer at political events is just wrong. --nt CrispyQ Aug 2012 #25

Again?!? MuseRider Aug 2012 #31

I believe we had to sit through a similar inaugural prayer by some CA homophobe evangelist. Lionessa Aug 2012 #33

Very offensive comparison kctim Aug 2012 #35

It is a completely legitimate comparison Marrah_G Aug 2012 #42

All rights are important kctim Aug 2012 #72

That assertion is grotesque. nt sibelian Aug 2012 #76

All rights are important Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #77

Politics has nothing to do with it kctim Aug 2012 #82

You might want to re-evaluated some of your assertions MNBrewer Aug 2012 #122

"GLBTs have not had to fight for their right to be considered a whole person." DURHAM D Aug 2012 #123

I would think that LGBT People of Color would wholeheartedly disagree with you. n/t JackBeck Aug 2012 #128

Valid point kctim Aug 2012 #175

For many LGBT People of Color, racism and homophobia/transphobia are not mutually exclusive. JackBeck Aug 2012 #181

You are correct kctim Aug 2012 #203

That happens to gay people all the time FreeState Aug 2012 #215

Under the law, slaveowners could basically do whatever they wanted with slaves hughee99 Aug 2012 #94

Under the law? Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #107

Sorry, you're wrong Confusious Aug 2012 #116

Even if that's the case Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #121

Blacks faced far worse even after the 13th Confusious Aug 2012 #130

The 13th Amendment didn't end anything. You apparently don't know about Jim Crow. kwassa Aug 2012 #166

"no where near the same ballpark" Raster Aug 2012 #131

Sigh kctim Aug 2012 #176

"All rights are important, but" Occulus Aug 2012 #148

Bullshit dbackjon Aug 2012 #201

The catholic church isn't lynching homosexuals 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #129

Not yet they aren't. Per catholic tradition, the preferred method would probably be burning. Raster Aug 2012 #137

Yeah that's a pretty huge leap 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #140

Not really. The catholic church is virulently homophobic and would prefer to send all LGBT Raster Aug 2012 #144

Your statements do not follow any logical pattern 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #146

To me, as a gay man, it does make sense. Occulus Aug 2012 #153

Question: 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #155

Yes Heywood J Aug 2012 #171

Would you say the jews are likewise an anti-gay hate group akin to the KKK? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #173

Most religions would seem to fit the definition of a hate group. Heywood J Aug 2012 #216

Interesting 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #217

Goodbye. Heywood J Sep 2012 #218

Gasp! 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #220

Thank you. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #185

Thank you! OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #194

I find you very offensive to Gay Americans dbackjon Aug 2012 #200

Then you aren't listening kctim Aug 2012 #209

This message was self-deleted by its author Sekhmets Daughter Aug 2012 #207

We don't want to slight the Santeria voters, so let's... Bigmack Aug 2012 #38

That's really a slap in the face to the liberal wing of the party. Cleita Aug 2012 #41

No, it's just a strategic move against the Republicans. pnwmom Aug 2012 #47

Maybe, but what is the fkkin bigot in the red robe going to be spouting off about? MNBrewer Aug 2012 #50

It'll just be a quick, routine blessing -- it's not a sermon. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #55

"It's only one prayer." Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #63

1. Then why have it at all? MNBrewer Aug 2012 #80

To pop the air out of the GOP publicity balloon. pnwmom Aug 2012 #83

Yeah, the GOP always respects the truth! They can still say they have his endorsement, and Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #186

self-delete pnwmom Aug 2012 #196

that doesn't matter a bit Occulus Aug 2012 #154

I'm curious whether you think your prediction was accurate. MNBrewer Sep 2012 #221

So once again my rights and my human dignity Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #62

Some practicing, lay Catholics support the Church unquestioningly. Cleita Aug 2012 #70

More than 95% of Catholics have used birth control. pnwmom Aug 2012 #84

You are exactly what I'm referring to. Cleita Aug 2012 #85

I know. I love it when non-Catholics like you tell Catholics pnwmom Aug 2012 #88

au contraire. Cleita Aug 2012 #91

I know you are a FORMER Catholic. pnwmom Aug 2012 #99

My dear, my dear if you only knew Church doctrine, you would know that isn't true. Cleita Aug 2012 #104

Your Catholic education appears to be rusty. pnwmom Aug 2012 #108

Statements are not doctrine. Cleita Aug 2012 #109

Thank you for proving my point. You must have missed Part 3, Chapter 2, Article 3. pnwmom Aug 2012 #114

And do look up what kind of sin it is if you don't. Cleita Aug 2012 #115

Some sins are mortal, some are venial. pnwmom Aug 2012 #125

Same here about you. Cleita Aug 2012 #133

Ever hear of the sin of gluttony? Or did they skip that at your school? pnwmom Aug 2012 #135

Oh dear there is no doctrine that you have to pay your taxes. Cleita Aug 2012 #143

And what is the sin if you don't? Cleita Aug 2012 #119

What do you mean, "what is the sin if you don't"? pnwmom Aug 2012 #138

Yes, and you are encouraged to give alms, but no one says you have to. Cleita Aug 2012 #141

You are wrong. Sins of omission -- not giving the alms -- pnwmom Aug 2012 #145

If they really could pin a sin on him, they could excommunicate him, but there is no doctrine Cleita Aug 2012 #149

You really don't understand the Church. They don't excommunicate pnwmom Aug 2012 #164

Yet another example of the divisive nature of religion. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #147

Since it has become necessary to try to explain this away and since many people are not sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #211

DNC=reagan democrats Jakes Progress Aug 2012 #46

Seeing as how most conventions are dead bores, most of the audience will be sleeping. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #49

God Hates Figs Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #54

Religion & Politics elbloggoZY27 Aug 2012 #57

Not equivilent karynnj Aug 2012 #58

Thank you for demeaning my rights. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #64

No one - not Obama or me - are demeaning your rights karynnj Aug 2012 #150

The invitation should never have been extended. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #188

To everything there is a season karynnj Aug 2012 #195

This will be one blessing among several and it forces the Church pnwmom Aug 2012 #59

He doesn't stand on the Democratic platform... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #61

To make it clear that he's not endorsing the GOP when he does the same thing pnwmom Aug 2012 #66

It's fucked up, but this is not how you deal with it` Taverner Aug 2012 #65

Then how do we deal with it? Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #67

No don't take it - or rather TAKE it, don't take it? Taverner Aug 2012 #162

Damn. Solly Mack Aug 2012 #68

No they should not. Bigots should be slapped down HARD whenever they are encountered... Raster Aug 2012 #97

Hey, the Catholic Church doesn't even think women are worthy enough persons to be priests. Zorra Aug 2012 #71

But hey, it's OK, 'cause it's just one little prayer. Raster Aug 2012 #152

The KKK basically is giving benediction at the DNC pediatricmedic Aug 2012 #74

Hardly the worst transgression in that room DerekG Aug 2012 #75

I'm still pissed about the slap in the face of labor. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #78

One thing's for sure. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #79

Right on Electrominuette Aug 2012 #193

if it would help Elect someone who would end Segregation and prevent someone HOrrible JI7 Aug 2012 #87

Your comparing a Catholic bishop Riftaxe Aug 2012 #89

Yes. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #92

A speaker is hardly the same Riftaxe Aug 2012 #100

By having this bigot speak Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #103

There's no distinction between a person who would happily kill you loyalsister Aug 2012 #93

Well said! nt mucifer Aug 2012 #105

+1 renie408 Aug 2012 #113

As someone who is joining a Franciscan Church (to keep the family together), mmonk Aug 2012 #96

GLAAD: American Catholics Support Marriage Equality Despite Church Position JackBeck Aug 2012 #101

Owner of Prop 8 Website ProtectMarriage.com Admits to Molesting Boys Zorra Aug 2012 #102

The leader of the KKK? What are you talking about? Skip Intro Aug 2012 #110

So it's okay for my party Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #112

Don't put words in my mouth. Skip Intro Aug 2012 #117

Yes, you are missing something. progressoid Aug 2012 #132

Let's try reality for a minute. Skip Intro Aug 2012 #142

As you said up thread "don't put words in my mouth" progressoid Aug 2012 #160

*sigh* Skip Intro Aug 2012 #163

*sigh indeed* progressoid Aug 2012 #167

Rick Warren all over again. hay rick Aug 2012 #111

Except it is just one prayer. Get over it. tritsofme Aug 2012 #118

It was just one prayer Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #120

And there will be more. Maybe I shouldn't have said get over it. You should get used to it. tritsofme Aug 2012 #124

We're already used to it Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #127

How about having someone who supports the Civil Rights of all Americans say 'just one prayer' sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #139

As a former Catholic and Catholc school graduate HockeyMom Aug 2012 #134

Hell no. 99Forever Aug 2012 #136

Marriage according to the BIBLE is: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #151

A bad decision. MineralMan Aug 2012 #156

This hypocritical fucker will find a way to get in a dig at the Dems - mark my words. MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #157

of course he will. anyone that thinks Dolan will offer up just a "small blessing" is delusional Raster Aug 2012 #159

Whatever gets PBO reelected... progress2k12nbynd Aug 2012 #168

This is a completely unnecessary mistake that should be fixed immediately. stevenleser Aug 2012 #169

I have butted heads with Pab a few times DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #170

You seem to forget that Joe Biden is a Catholic Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 #182

No, I don't. Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #190

Joe Biden is not part of the hierarchy Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #204

Are you seriously comparing the Catholic Church to the KKK? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #183

No, I'm comparing Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #189

Well, I'm Catholic too. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2012 #191

Really OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #198

He wants Catholiv votes as well. Dannyteague Aug 2012 #202

Then let him get a Catholic priest Pab Sungenis Aug 2012 #205

He will get the votes of Progressive Catholics, but may lose some of those votes by this sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #212

It isn't the same as the KKK by any means but Green_Lantern Aug 2012 #213

the same arguments as during the inauguration. 'it's just one prayer' 'reaching across the aisle' HiPointDem Aug 2012 #214

Funny how some have to spend their time worrying so much Rex Sep 2012 #219