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(47,245 posts) Wed Jun 19, 2019, 05:12 AM Jun 2019

More information is coming out about the Phoenix cops and the shoplifting of a doll... [View all]

The cops were still out of control.

BUT...

It appears to be that the family was shoplifting, according to the store's surveillance video.

No doubt more will come out as time goes on.

Perhaps more about the family themselves, and the two cops.

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More information is coming out about the Phoenix cops and the shoplifting of a doll... [View all] Archae Jun 2019 OP

I don't understand the point you are trying to make Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #1

This is one of those times no one may be in the right. Archae Jun 2019 #2

Wrong! You're justifying and victim blaming. Even if they did... Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #3

I am *NOT* letting the cops off the hook, damn it! Archae Jun 2019 #4

Then the shoplifting is irrelevant why bring it up? uponit7771 Jun 2019 #8

Yes, you are -- you literally gave them an excuse and "both sides" the situation obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #36

It is not victim blaming Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #9

True, but it's not like the two 'wrongs' cancel each other out. Captain Stern Jun 2019 #5

Yet while holding a baby in their arms this is disgusting uponit7771 Jun 2019 #7

Did you see the part of the video when a cop violently yanks the 4-yr-old away from her mother? tblue37 Jun 2019 #59

The OP clearly stated that the police overreacted Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #11

Yes. I know. I read it. Captain Stern Jun 2019 #13

But then you know all about bein' a low-down, double-dealin', back-stabbin' mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #32

Hee hee! Archae Jun 2019 #33

True Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #15

We actually do know some of that. Captain Stern Jun 2019 #18

If the officer stated he believed there to be Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #23

Which pretty much means cops can say "I thought someone had a weapon" mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #39

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #43

It can come down to just that Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #50

They all know exactly what they have to say Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #24

Cops always say they were "afraid" Merlot Jun 2019 #29

They ALWAYS say there was a weapon, or they feared there was on obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #38

Why is that not expected though ? treestar Jun 2019 #53

That's irrelevant, even if the cops knew that there was still no reason to go that far uponit7771 Jun 2019 #6

I did read the man was shoplifting too, but it hardly warrants that response. cwydro Jun 2019 #20

They media is yellowing the story, there's no video of the shoplifting just cut up pieces of uponit7771 Jun 2019 #44

Nope, shoplifting should NEVER have a reaction like that obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #35

What is the implicit relevance between the shoplifting and LEO behavior? LanternWaste Jun 2019 #45

*** there is no video of the father shoplifting !!!*** it's the child who took a baby doll!! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #10

I agree, the cops over-reacted, but the store video shows the couple lied. Archae Jun 2019 #12

I don't see that in the video that I've seen, could you link to the video you've seen? uponit7771 Jun 2019 #42

The video does ****NOT SHOW ANY SHOPLIFTING BY THE COUPLE **** It shows a chopped uponit7771 Jun 2019 #48

I agree that more will come out, but it is irrelevant. LuckyCharms Jun 2019 #14

It isn't irrelevant Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #17

No, it is not revelant obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #40

I suspect Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #51

When some little white kid steals something in a suburban Target and I see a video of cops StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #55

If the officer believed that a weapon was present Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #57

You know that's what they always say when they get caught brutalizing black people, right? StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #60

Interesting Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #62

The officer ALWAYS claims a belief Bettie Jun 2019 #64

Are you sure or just making an Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #69

When these stories come out Bettie Jun 2019 #72

That's why I mentioned the exception of violence, or the... LuckyCharms Jun 2019 #75

A lawsuit is fairly inexpensive to file Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #76

IMO, the shoplifting would reduce the eventual damages as viewed by a jury but wouldn't excuse Shrike47 Jun 2019 #78

So do you have a source? irisblue Jun 2019 #16

You could have stopped at "the cops were out of control" StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #19

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #46

Not doubting you, but is there a link? Tipperary Jun 2019 #21

As I said, yes. The cops were out of control. Archae Jun 2019 #25

Petty theives HopeAgain Jun 2019 #30

What does this have to do with someone in WI who shot at cops -- why are you comingling the events? obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #41

This is false, please stop spreading this bullcrap from the PPD. The video doesn't show ANYTHING but uponit7771 Jun 2019 #47

Yeah, I understand the point you were making. Tipperary Jun 2019 #56

Is the source of this information nothing more than a "people are saying", bullwinkle428 Jun 2019 #22

ABC news, posted above. Archae Jun 2019 #26

YES !! The video shown by the PPD does not show any elements of shoplifting. Its chopped up and blur uponit7771 Jun 2019 #49

There's still going to be a lawsuit Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #27

Call it what it is, please. The LIED on their official report. nt. Mariana Jun 2019 #65

"Fudging" an official report is a crime StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #70

Propotional responses. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #28

Was Larry David involved in this one? Initech Jun 2019 #31

Who cares obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #34

In other news, Freddie Gray was a career criminal who was arrested for possesion of an illegal knife Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #37

I posted the link to the Police Report this past weekend JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #52

Isn't it amazing that when this stuff happens Bettie Jun 2019 #66

Well, I guess we should be thankful... Catherine Vincent Jun 2019 #54

why is deadly force even threatened for shoplifting from a DOLLAR STORE? Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #58

If this had been a white family in the suburbs, no one would have been making excuses for the cop StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #61

More likely the second option. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #67

Ever notice that every time a cop Bettie Jun 2019 #63

Who said they "had it coming to them." Tipperary Jun 2019 #71

Punctuation typo Bettie Jun 2019 #73

I certainly do not think that. Tipperary Jun 2019 #79

Okay, that changes everything.... not. hunter Jun 2019 #68

Here is the interview video from Democracy Now with Amy Goodman: IcyPeas Jun 2019 #74

$1.00 pair of underwear and a $1.00 fake Barbie doll riverwalker Jun 2019 #77