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25. As I said, yes. The cops were out of control.

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:01 AM

Jun 2019

The store video showing the family shoplifting and then lying about it are here:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/phoenix-couple-viral-video-arrest-reject-police-chiefs/story?id=63766934

It's painfully obvious, too often here at DU, we have a view of people doing crimes as "Total innocents," even when they are bad as well.

This attitude has shown itself in a police shooting in Mount Pleasant, WI.

A punk with a long police record is being painted by his relatives as such a good boy, never did anything wrong, but those mean ol' cops shot and killed him.

AFTER he shot at them.

https://www.wisn.com/article/armed-18-year-old-fatally-shot-by-police-after-riding-bike-without-lights/27687683

So we have a family who by all appearances liked to shoplift together, they got caught and the cops went nuts acting like a bunch of thugs.

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More information is coming out about the Phoenix cops and the shoplifting of a doll... [View all] Archae Jun 2019 OP

I don't understand the point you are trying to make Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #1

This is one of those times no one may be in the right. Archae Jun 2019 #2

Wrong! You're justifying and victim blaming. Even if they did... Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #3

I am *NOT* letting the cops off the hook, damn it! Archae Jun 2019 #4

Then the shoplifting is irrelevant why bring it up? uponit7771 Jun 2019 #8

Yes, you are -- you literally gave them an excuse and "both sides" the situation obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #36

It is not victim blaming Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #9

True, but it's not like the two 'wrongs' cancel each other out. Captain Stern Jun 2019 #5

Yet while holding a baby in their arms this is disgusting uponit7771 Jun 2019 #7

Did you see the part of the video when a cop violently yanks the 4-yr-old away from her mother? tblue37 Jun 2019 #59

The OP clearly stated that the police overreacted Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #11

Yes. I know. I read it. Captain Stern Jun 2019 #13

But then you know all about bein' a low-down, double-dealin', back-stabbin' mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #32

Hee hee! Archae Jun 2019 #33

True Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #15

We actually do know some of that. Captain Stern Jun 2019 #18

If the officer stated he believed there to be Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #23

Which pretty much means cops can say "I thought someone had a weapon" mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #39

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #43

It can come down to just that Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #50

They all know exactly what they have to say Voltaire2 Jun 2019 #24

Cops always say they were "afraid" Merlot Jun 2019 #29

They ALWAYS say there was a weapon, or they feared there was on obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #38

Why is that not expected though ? treestar Jun 2019 #53

That's irrelevant, even if the cops knew that there was still no reason to go that far uponit7771 Jun 2019 #6

I did read the man was shoplifting too, but it hardly warrants that response. cwydro Jun 2019 #20

They media is yellowing the story, there's no video of the shoplifting just cut up pieces of uponit7771 Jun 2019 #44

Nope, shoplifting should NEVER have a reaction like that obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #35

What is the implicit relevance between the shoplifting and LEO behavior? LanternWaste Jun 2019 #45

*** there is no video of the father shoplifting !!!*** it's the child who took a baby doll!! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #10

I agree, the cops over-reacted, but the store video shows the couple lied. Archae Jun 2019 #12

I don't see that in the video that I've seen, could you link to the video you've seen? uponit7771 Jun 2019 #42

The video does ****NOT SHOW ANY SHOPLIFTING BY THE COUPLE **** It shows a chopped uponit7771 Jun 2019 #48

I agree that more will come out, but it is irrelevant. LuckyCharms Jun 2019 #14

It isn't irrelevant Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #17

No, it is not revelant obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #40

I suspect Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #51

When some little white kid steals something in a suburban Target and I see a video of cops StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #55

If the officer believed that a weapon was present Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #57

You know that's what they always say when they get caught brutalizing black people, right? StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #60

Interesting Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #62

The officer ALWAYS claims a belief Bettie Jun 2019 #64

Are you sure or just making an Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #69

When these stories come out Bettie Jun 2019 #72

That's why I mentioned the exception of violence, or the... LuckyCharms Jun 2019 #75

A lawsuit is fairly inexpensive to file Sherman A1 Jun 2019 #76

IMO, the shoplifting would reduce the eventual damages as viewed by a jury but wouldn't excuse Shrike47 Jun 2019 #78

So do you have a source? irisblue Jun 2019 #16

You could have stopped at "the cops were out of control" StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #19

THIS !!!! uponit7771 Jun 2019 #46

Not doubting you, but is there a link? Tipperary Jun 2019 #21

As I said, yes. The cops were out of control. Archae Jun 2019 #25

Petty theives HopeAgain Jun 2019 #30

What does this have to do with someone in WI who shot at cops -- why are you comingling the events? obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #41

This is false, please stop spreading this bullcrap from the PPD. The video doesn't show ANYTHING but uponit7771 Jun 2019 #47

Yeah, I understand the point you were making. Tipperary Jun 2019 #56

Is the source of this information nothing more than a "people are saying", bullwinkle428 Jun 2019 #22

ABC news, posted above. Archae Jun 2019 #26

YES !! The video shown by the PPD does not show any elements of shoplifting. Its chopped up and blur uponit7771 Jun 2019 #49

There's still going to be a lawsuit Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #27

Call it what it is, please. The LIED on their official report. nt. Mariana Jun 2019 #65

"Fudging" an official report is a crime StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #70

Propotional responses. maxsolomon Jun 2019 #28

Was Larry David involved in this one? Initech Jun 2019 #31

Who cares obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #34

In other news, Freddie Gray was a career criminal who was arrested for possesion of an illegal knife Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #37

I posted the link to the Police Report this past weekend JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #52

Isn't it amazing that when this stuff happens Bettie Jun 2019 #66

Well, I guess we should be thankful... Catherine Vincent Jun 2019 #54

why is deadly force even threatened for shoplifting from a DOLLAR STORE? Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #58

If this had been a white family in the suburbs, no one would have been making excuses for the cop StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #61

More likely the second option. Caliman73 Jun 2019 #67

Ever notice that every time a cop Bettie Jun 2019 #63

Who said they "had it coming to them." Tipperary Jun 2019 #71

Punctuation typo Bettie Jun 2019 #73

I certainly do not think that. Tipperary Jun 2019 #79

Okay, that changes everything.... not. hunter Jun 2019 #68

Here is the interview video from Democracy Now with Amy Goodman: IcyPeas Jun 2019 #74

$1.00 pair of underwear and a $1.00 fake Barbie doll riverwalker Jun 2019 #77